To close the topic, I'd like to point some usefull information I found this morning :

- alternative start-up :
http://chandlerproject.org/Journal/GrahamPerrin20090106

- Backup, restore and optimisation routines in Chandler Desktop :
http://chandlerproject.org/Journal/GrahamPerrin20090110

- Chandler quits on launch or won't start.
http://chandlerproject.org/Projects/TroubleshootChandler#Chandler%20quits%20on%20launch%20or%20won%27

Ok ok Got it now.
So If I am back up addicted, I should  export to .chex file manually.
Also If Chandler crash, one should try the several alternative cleaning-starts before getting back to backup files.

Proposition to chandler developpers :
I think it would be great to fire a message to users when a Exception occures while starting up pointing the possibility to use alternative starts up. Indeed those alternatives are just great but I discovered them after having solved my prb by hand (I mean command lines and many hours confused).

Thanks guys,

Paul



Le 12/08/09 01:32, Andi Vajda a écrit :

On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, Paul Girard wrote:

Ok so finally the binary_backup.tgz + -r option did the trick and I think I
get now everything back in order.

Good.

Now here are some questions :
- is the binary_backup.tgz file saved at each closing time ?

No, it's saved when you pick the 'backup' option under the 'Repository' menu
or when you use the similar command line option.

- What is this weird concept of environment around the database that can be
corrupted AND impossible to recover ?

See http://www.oracle.com/technology/documentation/berkeley-db/db/ref/env/intro.html
and chapters following.
Also see http://www.oracle.com/technology/documentation/berkeley-db/db/ref/transapp/recovery.html

- Am I wrong If I say that :
RECOVER = restore database environment
RESTORE = restore database from backup

Not really, but you're using 'restore' differently in each sentence.
Again, see http://www.oracle.com/technology/documentation/berkeley-db/db/ref/transapp/recovery.html

- If I want to be sure to backup my data, important files in the profile are
:
    - *.db and DB* (raw data)
    - binary_backup.tgz (backup to restore)
- no use to save database environement thus recover doesn't always work
and no important data in it ?

There are two ways to backup your data:
  - use repository backup as outlined earlier
  - export your data (this is done automatically when you quit Chandler,
    normally)

A data export is not a complete repository backup but your personal data is preserved.

Again big big thank first for you work on chandler and then to help me with
my crash problems.
I think I know better how to be sure not to lost my chandler data and that's
nice feeling.

You're welcome.

Andi..
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