Clearly, this year is 10 Prairial CCXXVI Well, unless you are using the Hebrew calendar - then it’s the year 5778.
Etc... (Translation: the answer here depends on your religious beliefs) I hope this helps. Have a nice day. Thanks, — Raul On Tuesday, May 29, 2018, 'Bo Jacoby' via Chat <[email protected]> wrote: > Do we agree that this year, AD 2018, is the eighth year of the of the > second decade of the first century of the third millenium? Or do you > consider it to be the seventh year of the first decade of the zeroth > century of the second millenium? The time passed until year 2018 are 2 > millenia, 0 centuries, 1 decade and 7 years, but those are not ordinal > numbers. > > Den 3:41 tirsdag den 29. maj 2018 skrev Jose Mario Quintana < > [email protected]>: > > > Personally, I feel more comfortable with the usual mathematical > perspective: 0 is the first ordinal, 1 is the second, etc. Moreover, from > this perspective (as far as I remember), there is no difference between > finite cardinal and ordinal numbers. > > ] A=. 'First' ; 'Second' ; 'Third' ; 'Fourth' ; 'Fifth' > ┌─────┬──────┬─────┬──────┬─────┐ > │First│Second│Third│Fourth│Fifth│ > └─────┴──────┴─────┴──────┴─────┘ > 0 { A > ┌─────┐ > │First│ > └─────┘ > 1 2 3 4 { A > ┌──────┬─────┬──────┬─────┐ > │Second│Third│Fourth│Fifth│ > └──────┴─────┴──────┴─────┘ > > > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 12:38 AM, 'Bo Jacoby' via Chat <[email protected] > > > wrote: > > > Ordinal numbers are not considered in J. The expression 2{y should not be > > read as "take the second element of y" but as "skip 2 elements and take > the > > left element of y". > > Ordinal Fractions use one-digit ordinal numbers for indexing. There are > > but nine one-digit ordinal numbers: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9, because 0 is not > an > > ordinal number, and 10 is not a one-digit number. Digit 0 - not being an > > ordinal number - is available to indicate empty digit positions. > > > > Example: The roman numeral MMLIII means (M*2)+(L*1)+(I*3) . It can be > > encoded (arabic style) without delimiting spaces: 2001003 . The zeroes > > in 2001003 mean that terms involving D C X and V are omitted. Likewise, > the > > ordinal fraction 2001003 means (M=2)*.(L=1)*.(I=3). The zeroes > > in 2001003 mean that conditions involving D C X and V are omitted. > > Thanks. > > Bo. > > Den 0:06 lørdag den 26. maj 2018 skrev Jose Mario Quintana < > > [email protected]>: > > > > > > Stopwatches and odometers can also be used to label time intervals to > > associate them to events occurring in those intervals and keep track of > the > > order in which they take place. In fact, conceptual odometers counting > > days have been used at least for two millennia and detecting a day when a > > big cycle ends and the day when the next begins is extremely hard to > miss. > > > > In addition, by starting at 0 when labelling sequential objects the > offset > > from the anchor is immediately evident; for instance, if the buttons in > an > > elevator for the floors of the building are labelled: *G (0), 1 ,2, ... > and > > I pressed 6, to get to the floor where I am then I know that if a fire > > alarm goes off I will go down the stairs 6 floors and I will be on the > > ground floor. However, if the fire alarm would go off right now in my > > building, ... I would do nothing because there are too many damn false > > alarms! > > > > In the context of the common English language, there is little doubt that > > the ordinal numbers are 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, ... However, in another > > context (see, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordinal_number ) they are 0, > > 1, > > 2, ... (, ω, and so on). > > > > Personally, I have no problem relating both by saying 0 is the 1st > ordinal > > number, 1 is the 2nd ordinal, 2 is the 3rd ordinal, 3 is the 4th ordinal, > > etc. > > > > I understand that there could be instances where starting from 1 might be > > more desirable; apparently, that is the case for your Ordinal Fractions > > where the digit 0 is used for a special purpose (although I cannot see > the > > difficulty in starting from 0 and using, say, _ for the special purpose). > > > > > > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Jose Mario Quintana < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > :D > > > > > > It seems that these people like complications. They are not very smart > > or > > > maybe they are... Job security! > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 7:14 PM, David Lambert <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Our credit union had used employee numbers for account numbers. But > ran > > >> out of 5 digit numbers. Did they change our accounts to 0abcde? 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