This nice day, May 29, 2018, according to some Day Keepers, is 13.0.5.9.5. That is right, they have been counting days avoiding inevitable complicated correction rules when trying to synchronize years and days (KISS). (Yet, the date 13.0.0.0.0 corresponded to December 21, 2012.)
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 9:16 AM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > Clearly, this year is 10 Prairial CCXXVI > > Well, unless you are using the Hebrew calendar - then it’s the year 5778. > > Etc... > > (Translation: the answer here depends on your religious beliefs) > > I hope this helps. > > Have a nice day. > > Thanks, > > — > Raul > > On Tuesday, May 29, 2018, 'Bo Jacoby' via Chat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Do we agree that this year, AD 2018, is the eighth year of the of the > > second decade of the first century of the third millenium? Or do you > > consider it to be the seventh year of the first decade of the zeroth > > century of the second millenium? The time passed until year 2018 are 2 > > millenia, 0 centuries, 1 decade and 7 years, but those are not ordinal > > numbers. > > > > Den 3:41 tirsdag den 29. maj 2018 skrev Jose Mario Quintana < > > [email protected]>: > > > > > > Personally, I feel more comfortable with the usual mathematical > > perspective: 0 is the first ordinal, 1 is the second, etc. Moreover, > from > > this perspective (as far as I remember), there is no difference between > > finite cardinal and ordinal numbers. > > > > ] A=. 'First' ; 'Second' ; 'Third' ; 'Fourth' ; 'Fifth' > > ┌─────┬──────┬─────┬──────┬─────┐ > > │First│Second│Third│Fourth│Fifth│ > > └─────┴──────┴─────┴──────┴─────┘ > > 0 { A > > ┌─────┐ > > │First│ > > └─────┘ > > 1 2 3 4 { A > > ┌──────┬─────┬──────┬─────┐ > > │Second│Third│Fourth│Fifth│ > > └──────┴─────┴──────┴─────┘ > > > > > > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 12:38 AM, 'Bo Jacoby' via Chat < > [email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > Ordinal numbers are not considered in J. The expression 2{y should not > be > > > read as "take the second element of y" but as "skip 2 elements and take > > the > > > left element of y". > > > Ordinal Fractions use one-digit ordinal numbers for indexing. There are > > > but nine one-digit ordinal numbers: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9, because 0 is not > > an > > > ordinal number, and 10 is not a one-digit number. Digit 0 - not being > an > > > ordinal number - is available to indicate empty digit positions. > > > > > > Example: The roman numeral MMLIII means (M*2)+(L*1)+(I*3) . It can be > > > encoded (arabic style) without delimiting spaces: 2001003 . The zeroes > > > in 2001003 mean that terms involving D C X and V are omitted. Likewise, > > the > > > ordinal fraction 2001003 means (M=2)*.(L=1)*.(I=3). The zeroes > > > in 2001003 mean that conditions involving D C X and V are omitted. > > > Thanks. > > > Bo. > > > Den 0:06 lørdag den 26. maj 2018 skrev Jose Mario Quintana < > > > [email protected]>: > > > > > > > > > Stopwatches and odometers can also be used to label time intervals to > > > associate them to events occurring in those intervals and keep track of > > the > > > order in which they take place. In fact, conceptual odometers counting > > > days have been used at least for two millennia and detecting a day > when a > > > big cycle ends and the day when the next begins is extremely hard to > > miss. > > > > > > In addition, by starting at 0 when labelling sequential objects the > > offset > > > from the anchor is immediately evident; for instance, if the buttons in > > an > > > elevator for the floors of the building are labelled: *G (0), 1 ,2, ... > > and > > > I pressed 6, to get to the floor where I am then I know that if a fire > > > alarm goes off I will go down the stairs 6 floors and I will be on the > > > ground floor. However, if the fire alarm would go off right now in my > > > building, ... I would do nothing because there are too many damn false > > > alarms! > > > > > > In the context of the common English language, there is little doubt > that > > > the ordinal numbers are 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, ... However, in another > > > context (see, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordinal_number ) they are > 0, > > > 1, > > > 2, ... (, ω, and so on). > > > > > > Personally, I have no problem relating both by saying 0 is the 1st > > ordinal > > > number, 1 is the 2nd ordinal, 2 is the 3rd ordinal, 3 is the 4th > ordinal, > > > etc. > > > > > > I understand that there could be instances where starting from 1 might > be > > > more desirable; apparently, that is the case for your Ordinal Fractions > > > where the digit 0 is used for a special purpose (although I cannot see > > the > > > difficulty in starting from 0 and using, say, _ for the special > purpose). > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Jose Mario Quintana < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > :D > > > > > > > > It seems that these people like complications. They are not very > smart > > > or > > > > maybe they are... Job security! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 7:14 PM, David Lambert <[email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Our credit union had used employee numbers for account numbers. But > > ran > > > >> out of 5 digit numbers. 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