There are Natural numbers that can be used for counting (Cardinal) and ordering 
(Ordinal).

Indexing arrays is an instance of Ordinals.

Counting elements in arrays is an instance of Cardinal. 

J might not have Irrational or Imaginary or Complex numbers but it does have 
Natural numbers which can be used as Ordinal or Cardinal even if J does not 
declare that type. There might be Real or Integer or Rational numbers. The 
natural numbers with 0, correspond to the non-negative integers


Donna Y
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> On May 31, 2018, at 1:22 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jose Mario Quintana
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Are you referring to the notation you invented, here?
>> 
>> The notation I invented?
> 
> Oops, I thought you were Bo, for some reason. I don't remember all the
> details of the notations he has proposed. But that's my mistake and
> not a relevant tangent in this thread, for now at least.
> 
>>> When I try to look up "finite mathematical ordinals" I don't see
>>> anything significant with that label. And when I try to parse that
>> 
>> In general, mathematical ordinals and mathematical cardinals are not the
>> same.
> 
> They are indeed different abstractions. Howeve, that does not mean
> that there's no equivalences between them.
> 
>>> phrase as individual words, I see no contradiction with what I had
>>> said.
>> 
>> I do not see one either (often I respond to posts in sequence without
>> necessarily having read all the subsequent posts).
> 
> Fair enough.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> Raul
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