beenary numbers

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On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 07:40 'Bo Jacoby' via Chat, <c...@jsoftware.com> wrote:

> Cardinal numbers (0, 1, 2, . . .) are  including 0 (zero).
> Ordinal numbers (1, 2, 3, . . .) are  starting with 1 (first). There is no
> "zeroth".
> There is arithmetic of cardinal numbers (including the J verbs + * ^ ! ) ,
> but there is no arithmetic of ordinal numbers.
> The codes of the UDC are important numerical objects, but they are neither
> integers, nor decimal fractions, nor rational numbers, nor real numbers,
> nor complex numbers, nor quaternions, nor vectors, nor matrices, nor
> functions, nor operators. They have been neglected by mathematicians.
> A new kind of numbers must be considered. I dubbed them  'ordinal
> fractions' .
> A cardinal number, such as 'one', counts a set.
> An ordinal number, such as 'the first', identifies an element in a set.
> A cardinal fraction, such as 'one half', measures a part of a totality.
> An ordinal fraction, such as 'the first half', identifies a part of a
> totality.
> Consider for simplicity the binary, rather than the decimal, notation.
> one = 1 = 0001. The digit positions, right to left, indicate ones, twos,
> fours, and eights, and the digit values are one-digit binary cardinal
> numbers, 0 and 1.
> the first = 1 = 0001. This is the cardinal number corresponding to the
> ordinal number in question.
> one half = 0.1 = 0.1000. The digit positions after the binary point
> indicate halfs, fourths, eights, and sixteenths, and the digit values are
> one-digit binary cardinal numbers, 0 and 1.
> the first half = ?????
> My solution to this problem is
> the first half = 1 = 1000
> the second half = 2 = 2000
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> the first fourth = 11 = 1100
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> the second fourth = 12 = 1200
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> the third fourth = 21 = 2100
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> the fourth fourth = 22 = 2200
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> the odd fourths = 01 = 0100
> the even fourths = 02 = 0200
> the sixteenth sixteenth = 2222
> Note that the digit positions indicate halfs, fourths, eights, and
> sixteenths, and the digit values are either 1 meaning first, and 2 meaning
> second, or 0 meaning both. 1000 means: first half, both fourths, both
> eights, both sixteenths. 'both' goes without saying, just as 0 goes without
> saying. 1000 = 1 = first half. That is one reason for choosing 0 for
> 'both'.
> I did not know the words hyponymy and hypernymy. Thanks! That is just what
> I need.
> In logic I let 1 and 2 represent True and False. 0 means unknown or
> unimportant.
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> The Transylvanian problem:
> 0001 Minna is human
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> 0002 Minna is vampire
> 0010 Minna is sane
> 0020 Minna is insane
> 0100 Lucy is human
> 0200 Lucy is vampire
> 1000 Lucy is sane
> 2000 Lucy is insane
> Check the 2^4 ordinal fractions from 1111 to 2222 against the data. (I
> have not done it)
> Thanks! Bo. .
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>     Den 5:58 fredag den 8. juni 2018 skrev Donna Y <dy...@sympatico.ca>:
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>  Can we agree on definitions
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> Ordinal numbers and Cardinal numbers are Natural numbers which do no
> include the number 0. The Natural numbers are well ordered.
> Whole numbers are the Natural numbers and 0. 0 is the least element of the
> Whole numbers.
> Integers are Whole numbers and Negative signed Natural numbers. (-n + n=
> 0  Zero is not a positive or a negative integer—0 has no sign.) The set of
> integers has no least element.
> Real numbers are continuous and complete and can be rational or
> irrational—rational numbers are integers and fractions, irrational numbers
> cannot be expressed as a ratio of two integers.
> Imaginary numbers are not real—they exist in another dimension—root
> negative 1 or i, complex numbers have real and imaginary components.
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> Tables are two dimensional arrays.
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> The basic structure of UDC is hierarchy but it could be viewed in other
> ways—as you said yourself.
>
> Are you using tables where Rows are records and Columns are attributes? Is
> there a primary key?
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> I am not sure where your Ordinal Fraction comes in but a computer
> application of UDC would need full integration of information retrieval
> (IR) features into a database management system (DBMS).
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> Right truncation specifies hypernomy (is a—as in number theory is a subset
> of mathematics)—I copied this table but from my view forms of higher degree
> is not a subset of diophantine equations.
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> Table 1:
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> 5: mathematics and natural sciences
> 51: mathematics
> 511: number theory
> 511.5: diophantine equations
> 511.57: forms of higher degree
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> What is the precise reason you chose to use 0 as a wild card?—why not * or
> # or & or … ? What advantages are derived by using 0?  For example when you
> use boolean logic the 0 and 1 can represent False and True and then the
> result vector of 0 and 1 can be used for selection.
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> hat does this even mean?
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> > For example: 0=0 and 0>1 and 1<0 and 10<>01 and 1><2. (meaning that the
> whole is equal to the whole, and the whole comprises the first part, and
> the first part is part of the whole, and the first half is compatible with
> the odd fourths, and the first part is disjoint with the second part).
> > The notation for ordinal fractions makes ordinal fraction arithmetic
> easy, just as the notation for cardinal numbers makes cardinal number
> arithmetic easy.
> > Keep asking!
>
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> Maybe you can show how Ordinal Fractions can be applied to the problem
> below:
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> PUZZLE BREAK
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> Inspector Craig Visits Transylvania
> Inspector Craig of Scotland Yard was called to Transylvania to solve some
> cases of vampirism. Arriving there, he found the country inhabited both by
> vampires and humans. Vampires always lie and humans always tell the truth.
> However, half the inhabitants, both human and vampire, are insane and
> totally deluded in their beliefs: all true propositions they believe false,
> and all false propositions they believe true.
> The other half of the inhabitants are completely sane: all true statements
> they know to be true, and all false statements they know to be false. Thus
> sane humans and insane vampires make only true statements; insane humans
> and sane vampires make only false statements.
> Inspector Craig met two sisters, Lucy and Minna. He knew that one was a
> vampire and one was a human, but knew nothing about the sanity of either.
> Here is the investigation:
> Craig (to Lucy): Tell me about yourselves.
> Lucy: We are both insane.
> Craig (to Minna): Is that true?
> Minna: Of course not!
> From this, Craig was able to prove which of the sisters was the vampire.
> Which one was it?
> — From Logician Raymond Smullyan
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> Donna Y
> dy...@sympatico.ca
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> > On Jun 7, 2018, at 5:55 PM, 'Bo Jacoby' via Chat <c...@jsoftware.com>
> wrote:
> >
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> > "You do not show how to access particular rows or columns or elements
> from a table".
> > The table, and the table name, is addressed by 00.
> > The left column, and the left column header, is addressed by 01.
> > The right column, and the right column header, is addressed by 02.
> > The upper row, and the upper row header, is addressed by 10.
> > The upper left table entry, and its data content, is addressed by 11.
> > The upper right table entry, and its data content, is addressed by 12.
> > The lower row, and the lower row header, is addressed by 20.
> > The lower left table entry, and its data content, is addressed by 21.
> > The lower right table entry, and its data content, is addressed by 22.
> >
> > "without knowing the number of rows or columns."
> > In the example there are two rows and two columns.
> > If you need a third row, call it 30.
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> > "Why not the concept of arrays with an index?"
> > Arrays may have different shapes. Any ordinal fraction has the shape
> (_$9).
> > Arrays have elements. Ordinal fractions don't.
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> > Only array elements contains data. Any ordinal fraction may contain data.
> >
> > Arrays may have subarrays. Any ordinal fraction has subordinate ordinal
> fractions.
> > Arrays and atoms have names. Ordinal fractions don't.
> >
> > "the set of Natural numbers begin with 1 yet we use base 10
> representation that uses 0."
> >
> > Cardinal numbers and ordinal fractions have similarities and
> differences.
> > Cardinal number 0 (meaning "nothing") is not the same thing as ordinal
> fraction 0 (meaning "everything").
> >
> > Cardinal number 1 (meaning "one") is not the same thing as ordinal
> fraction 1 (meaning "first part").
> >
> > Using "0" for wild card character does not get along with using "0" for
> counting to ten.
> > A cardinal number is represented by a right-justified sequence of digits
> with a finite number of nonzero digits. The cardinal number 1 may be
> written 00001.
> >
> > An ordinal fraction is represented by a left-justified sequence of
> digits with a finite number of nonzero digits. The ordinal fraction 1 may
> be written 10000.
> >
> > "However this was not an easy system in which to do arithmetic so I
> cannot see how your base 9 system could be either."
> > Cardinal numbers, A and B, are ordered such that either A=B or A<B or
> A>B. For example: 0=0 and 0<1 and 1>0 (meaning "zero is equal to zero" ,
> and "zero is fewer than one", and "one is more than zero").
> >
> > Ordinal fractions, A and B, are ordered such that either A=B or A<B or
> A>B or A<>B or A><B. For example: 0=0 and 0>1 and 1<0 and 10<>01 and 1><2.
> (meaning that the whole is equal to the whole, and the whole comprises the
> first part, and the first part is part of the whole, and the first half is
> compatible with the odd fourths, and the first part is disjoint with the
> second part).
> > The notation for ordinal fractions makes ordinal fraction arithmetic
> easy, just as the notation for cardinal numbers makes cardinal number
> arithmetic easy.
> > Keep asking!
> > Bo.
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> >    Den 18:35 torsdag den 7. juni 2018 skrev Donna Y <dy...@sympatico.ca
> >:
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> > UDC is a library classification system akin to the Dewey decimal
> system—the creators collaborated with Dewy. UTC is also used for data.
> >
> >> Every number is thought of as a decimal fraction with the initial
> decimal point omitted, which determines the filing order.
> >
> > I am not sure why you say it cannot handle tables.
> >
> >> Concepts are organized in two kinds of tables in UDC:[27] <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Decimal_Classification#cite_note-UDC_Structure-27
> >
> >> Common auxiliary tables (including certain auxiliary signs). These
> tables contain facets of concepts representing, general recurrent
> characteristics, applicable over a range of subjects throughout the main
> tables, including notions such as place, language of the text and physical
> form of the document, which may occur in almost any subject. UDC numbers
> from these tables, called common auxiliaries are simply added at the end of
> the number for the subject taken from the main tables. There are over
> 15,000 of common auxiliaries in UDC.
> >> The main tables or main schedules containing the various disciplines
> and branches of knowledge, arranged in 9 main classes, numbered from 0 to 9
> (with class 4 being vacant). At the beginning of each class there are also
> series of special auxiliaries, which express aspects that are recurrent
> within this specific class. Main tables in UDC contain more than 60,000
> subdivisions.
> >
> > Can you show exactly what is gained by your “ordinal fraction”?
> >
> > Also—the set of Natural numbers begin with 1 yet we use base 10
> representation that uses 0.
> >
> > However in the 4 BCE the Greeks used their letters to represent numbers
> from one to nine with no zero:
> >
> > alpha  beta  gamma  delta  epsilon  digamma  zeta  eta  theta
> >
> > They didn’t need to use 0 for higher values because much like Romans
> they had symbols for higher values.
> >
> > However this was not an easy system in which to do arithmetic so I
> cannot see how your base 9 system could be either.
> >
> > You suddenly use 0 when you illustrate tables. You do not show how to
> access particular rows or columns or elements from a table but instead use
> vague
> > terms upper, lower, left, right without knowing the number of rows or
> columns..
> >
> > Why not the concept of arrays with an index?.
> >
> > Maybe you could explain what I am missing.
> >
> > Donna Y
> > dy...@sympatico.ca
> >
> >
> >> On Jun 7, 2018, at 3:47 AM, 'Bo Jacoby' via Chat <c...@jsoftware.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ordinal Fractions is an improvement to the idea behind the Universal
> Decimal Classification (UDC).
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