Since Zenon thought your reply was worth his attention, I'll reply as well. --- Zenon Panoussis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Matthew Findley wrote: > > > "A lot of dangerous things that have utility are > permitted to be used, > > like guns, cars, fire ... bricks." > > Yep just like freenet which is legel. > > Until you shoot someone, run someone down, set > something on fire, throw > > a brick at someone. > > > You avoided the question, why do you think you > should be able to get > > away with helping spread illegal matterials? I'll enumerate my position to make things simple for you: 1) Freenet is legal to use and I have no knowledge what is passing through my node. My ignorance is not willful because I do not have the expertise or the equipment to pierce the technical safeguards built into Freenet. 2) I have already stated that I do not believe that KP is being transmitted by the users of Freenet. I believe that Freenet users are responsible, law abiding people. 3) Assuming you could provide me with links to illegal content you personally verified, its my position that such illegal content is posted by entities hostile to the goals of Freenet. In hacker parlance this is known as social engineering. 4) I have a right to use anonymizing software to protect my free speech on the internet. I also assert my right to do whatever I wish as long as it's legal and meets my personal moral standards. This right is protected by the 9th amendment! 5) Your assessment that I am somehow breaking the law by abetting some unspecified crime committed by some unspecified person, legally means nothing. Also, you have no credibility with me as it pertains to your legal expertise judging by your posts to this list. 6) If the legislators thought they could convict people for using anonymizing network software they wouldn't bother trying to pass the induce act. 7) It's common knowledge that dangerous goods and services are permitted by the law if they have enough utility. For instance, although thousands of people are killed in cars every year, the government will not outlaw the use of private vehicles and force everyone to use public transportation. Or how about cigarettes? They continue to be legal to sell even though it is well established that no amount of smoking is safe. And handguns of course, who's intended purpose as stated by the manufacturers, is to shoot human beings. Some of these shootings are lawful (like shooting an intruder in your home) but many are not. This concept of utility allowing the use of something dangerous (like a handgun) is so important it was PUT INTO THE CONSTITUTION. 8) Guess what? Law abiding people need anonymity too. If you doubt it, you can ask your doctor, lawyer, psychiatrist, priest and spouse! 9) Just because you say something doesn't make it true. 10) Are not! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo _______________________________________________ chat mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.general