I had several discussions with different people mostly old APL programmers
about the APL symbols being so missed...

With today's technology one can easily (with motivation) build a unicode
front end to J and customize it so that graphic characters of his/her choice
would be used to write underlining J code. This graphic layer would probably
be different for each person so somewhere along the lines one needs a dog's
breakfast to hookup to his/her flavor of the day of special inspiring
graphics.

These criticisms are really showing differences in taste rather then
substance. For instance, way back in time before J even existed, I was
saying to a friend that I would not care to use series of colored spots to
program in APL because what was important was what I could do with the
underlying concepts concealed behind the APL symbols. Well, with J it is so
much more so that I challenge anyone to come up with a nice set of graphics
that would satisfies everybody. The dog's breakfast could very well be the
basic ingredients to all the worlds meals recipes rather than a meal... ;O)

Maybe someday, someone will come up with a graphic layer that would generate
J code and it will catch up as a new fad, but for now the basic ingredients
are sufficient to see the wonders one can cook.

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Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [Jchat] J readability


Please see my comment in the Chat thread "Readible J" by James C. Field.
Thank you,
Bob from Boynton Beach, FL


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