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Aint it the truth, Clint. Reagan once announced in a
speech that "inflation is tax". The media people didn't understand it so
they never attacked him for it. Lucky for Reagan, most media people can't figure
out whether they should lease their new Chevy or buy it. For that matter,
neither can anyone else because they don't teach the concept in school...they're
too busy teaching gay tolerance and Ebonics.
Just for the record, my idea of "gun control" is putting
the second round through the same hole as the first.
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Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 3:43
PM
Subject: Fw: [Chevelle-list] Anyone
home?
Yep,Ronald Reagan said it best. "Government takes
from the needy and gives to the greedy."
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Again, I hate to interject here but the Fed raises
rates to check inflation because BUSINESS wants them to, not because
government wants them to. 99.9999% of the people in the world do not know that
inflation is TAX. It is not discussed by politicians and media because a)
it is over the head of most media people and b) it is over the head of nearly
all attorneys and our politicians are all attorneys.
Inflation is the systematic devaluation of a currency.
When you see the "national debt" number, what is not discussed is to whom that
debt is owed. The fact is, the debt is owed almost entirely to American
citizens (and their pension plans, IRAs and 401ks) in the form of US
Treasury bills and notes and bonds (among which is the ubiquitous Savings
Bond). Inflation benefits "net debtors", that is, people or countries or
companies who owe more money in debt than is owed to them by others. The
government is the biggest "net debtor" by a gigantic margin. Thus, inflation
HELPS the government because it allows them to pay YOU back with dollars that
have been "devalued"...that is, they are worth less than the dollars you
loaned them when you bought the bond, T-bill, T-note, etc.
All you Vietnam era vets and citizens might remember
that at the end of the Vietnam War the national debt was staggering. In fact,
the US could not pay it off so the government, then under Richard Nixon,
devalued the currency 25% in one day. And this was on top of inflation rates
that ranged from 12% to 20% over the preceeding three or four years. Folks,
this is "inflation" gone mad. Some of you might also remember stories about
the inflation rate in Brazil being 100% per month and things like that. That,
too, is just the government in power "devaluing" the currency. It happens all
over the world, all the time.
If you really want to see true change in this country,
demand that your schools teach people two things: The "time value of money"
(also called "discounted cash flow" and how to figure it out) and the
difference between "progressive" and "regressive" tax systems. If
ordinary people understood these two things, every politician in office would
be thrown out on his or her fat behind - Repulicans and Democrats alike.
In fact, I'll go farther than that - if people understood the concept of
regressive taxes alone every politician in office would be arrested and
charged with sedition. The old saying "the rich get richer and the poor get
poorer" exists not because rich people screw poor people but because the
government screws poor people. They do this because they can - you see, the
rich people "get it". They understand how the tax system works and how to
circumvent the system. Poor people don't have the knowledge so they get
screwed. It isn't a big conspiracy, it is your elected representatives
creating a tax system that enables them to tax the people with the smallest
voice - and that is you and me.
Finally, permit me to say that, I can teach
ANYONE who graduated from high school these two ideas and the fact that our
high schools do NOT teach these things is, IMHO, nearly criminal. I was taught
these ideas in the first accounting class I took to become a CPA. Every CPA
understands this stuff which is why all CPAs hate taxes. But that doesn't mean
only CPAs "get it". This stuff is pretty easy when it is taught
properly.
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Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005
11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Anyone
home?
I'm going to have to respectfully
disagree. Like I said, if the media tells people an economic indicator
came in "worse than expected" it's perceived as bad. Even if an
indicator may be trending downward, it still can be very strong. GDP
has been clipping along at above 3% for several quarters in a row &
unemployment is low at 5%. If the economics of the US are so bad, why
would the FED continue to raise interest rates? Fact is the economy is
doing well, so they are raising interest rates to prevent inflation.
Believe it or not, the post-Katrina effect is going to be positive for the
economy. Construction, building materials, etc. Of course, all
this building is being fueled by government spending. The negative
effect of Katrina will be inflation which the FED hopes to prevent and
higher deficits. The deficit is being funded by foreign investment at
a pace of $100 Billion a Month. So, the US is screwed when other
countries won't fund our spending.
At 04:54 PM 11/22/2005, Clint
Hooper wrote:
Germany's reunification with Combloc East Germany is the main
reason for their struggles,at the moment. It's certainly not us kicking
their butts. As for France,who the heck cares? <G>
I'm an
optimist but the US economy isn't doing that well,Matt. Most of the
economic indicators are trending downward. However,disasters like Katrina
sure haven't done us any favors. Even though I support what we're doing in
Iraq and Afghanistan,the cost is hurting us,bigtime.
Clint
Hooper
H&H Custom,owner
1969 El Camino ProTourer
2001 H-D
FLHR custom bagger
http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- ----- Original Message -----
- From: Matthew Post
- What people fail to see and what the media fails to report is how
well our economy is actually doing. Europe and Asia cannot keep
up. With the exception of China, who has to revert to unfair trade
practices to succeed, we are doing better than anywhere
else. Japan has been in a decade long depression (wonder it that's
why they don't buy American products), Germany has been in a recession,
unemployment is over 10% in France..........We've become a country of
pessimists and the media just fuels that belief.
- At 04:28 PM 11/22/2005, you wrote:
- You guys can buy foreign cars all you
want.. It's your right to do so. I own two GM vehicles and one Harley
Davidson.
- However,unfair trade with the Chinese is what's killing our
economy. Just look at ChinaMart's success.
- Clint Hooper
- H&H Custom,owner
- 1969 El Camino ProTourer
- 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger
- http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
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- From: James Strunk
- my bottom line,,,when ANYONE owns a japanese
product,even if it's your right,,,,you ARE supporting a country that attacked
and brutally killed american solders, such as my grandfather,,, that
refuses to allow our products to be sold in their country,,,that's
right,,exercise your right,,buy from a race that will not buy from
US!!!!
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- From: Marlon Hanson
- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; The Chevelle Mailing
List
- Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 3:20 PM
- Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Anyone home?
- I think the big picture is that too many of us our looking at
our own short term benefit, just as GM and Ford did in the 80s
when they let the Japanese take over the auto market. They went
for short term quarter to quarter gains profits so everyone in
upper management could earn fat bonuses and and stock would go up.
Now we have in essense been "taken over" and more ownership of
what used to be OUR country is gradually slipping completely out
of American hands. Long term, this COULD prove to be a significant
problem for our grandchildren. We can't be sure, but I do seem to
recall that the brutality of every country we now buy from during
past wars. Our "prisoner abuses" are nothing compared to what was
done to our soldiers who were captured were subjected to in World
War II and since. And... Now that our funds are gradually
funneling into the middle east for gas and oil we know what their
attitude toward personal liberties are. All that money goes toward
buying Ame! rica ... good for us today. For our children? for our
grandchildren?
- I am a bit obstinate, but I carefully look at what I'm buying
and try to stay as American as possible. From Cars to Wal Mart, I
must admit it is getting harder and harder.
- Marlon.
- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- I agree with all of you; but you're missing the big picture.
James is right. The Japanese do not open their trading borders,
not just for Autos but all products, with the same open arms
that we do. Bottom line; follow the money. Where do those profit
dollars really go after the cars are built in America?
-
- BTW, GM is closing 9[i think] plants and laying off some
30,000 employees.
-
- Rich
- -----Original Message-----
- From: Matthew Post
- Sent: Nov 22, 2005 4:12 PM
- To: The Chevelle Mailing List , The Chevelle Mailing List
- Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Anyone home?
- Are there any vehicles that are ENTIRELY American built
anymore? And by that I mean without Canadian or Mexican
parts/assembly etc.? I doubt it. Larry makes a good
point, but I believe those Japanese cars assembled here are made
with mostly Japanese parts. They are assembled here to
avoid the customs duties associated with finished goods, but GM
and Ford do the same thing in Europe.
- I guess my point is that the lines are very blurred.
People can say "Buy American" and I'm all for it, but you have
to wonder how much of the product is really American.
Besides, the Japanese automaker pays taxes to Uncle Sam for
selling their ca! rs here, same as GM or Ford.
- Matt
- At 12:32 PM 11/22/2005, Larry Shouse wrote:
- I'm not ashamed of owning a Japanese
vehicle. As far as I'm concerned it's our right as an American
to buy what we feel to be the best fit and value for our given
situation. Besides, many "Japanese" cars and trucks are
assembled here in the United States, while many of our
American vehicles are assembled in other countries. Same goes
for parts. You want to buy strictly American? That's your
right and I will defend your right to do so, but good luck
accomplishing your goal.
-
- Larry Shouse
- ----- Original Message -----
- From: James
Strunk
- To: The
Chevelle Mailing List
- Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 1:17 PM
- Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Anyone home?
- I have an idea,,no a suggestion,get rid
of that japanese car,,anybody should be ashamed to own
japanese cars,they restict owr big three automakers to a
specific # of cars that can be sold in japan,, FAIR TRADE ??? I've said
before,,If you see me in a
japanese car or truck,,call the law,,I've been
kidnapped !!!!!
- ----- Original Message -----
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net
- Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 9:46 PM
- Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Anyone home?
- ok
ok somebody has got to step and be the expert
......somebody? anybody ? gezzzzz maybe all of us together
are the experts lol
- Darin
Bailey
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