[chhattisgarh-net] Digest Number 1971

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chhattisgarh-net Messages In This Digest (8 Messages) 1a. Re: What is development and whose development are we talking about? From: alok_ksharma 1b. Re: What is development and whose development are we talking about? From: dearsaby 2. Distribution of forest-land deed in Chhattisgarh will be over by De From: malini_s . 3a. Re: Bundelkhand :   Where NREGA is a failure From: dearsaby 4a. Re: Why is Bhaskar and Express afraid to print the response to  Shek From: rahul 5a. Sickle cell anaemia grips 18 percent of Chhattisgarh From: malini_s . 5b. Re: Sickle cell anaemia grips 18 percent of Chhattisgarh From: alok_ksharma 6. Off topic: Powerful Corporate grabbing land for FOOD in starving nat From: vijendra Aznabi View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. Re: What is development and whose development are we talking about? Posted by: "alok_ksharma" alok_ksha...@yahoo.com   alok_ksharma Tue Sep 8, 2009 9:30 am (PDT) Just as a side point and without trying to dilute the waste of people's money by the government. I am not sure how much of these pension expenses is the money being transferred from Raipur to Bhopal to take care of the pension liabilities of ex united Madhya Pradesh. But I am interested to know if Chattisgarh is liable for those pension commitments and did it ever need or use the services of those government agencies. Back in the days when Chattisgarh was ruled by Bhopal, I remember Chattisgarh used to contribute 2/3rds of the state revenue but used only 1/3rd of expenses and services. So year over year there was a silent transfer of wealth from Chattisgarh to the rest of MP. Alok --- In chhattisgarh-n...@yahoogroups.com, "shu36garh" <smita...@...> wrote: > > Dear friends > > 13th Finance Commission report gives some data on the state's expenditure on Salary and pensions > > In the year 2001 Chhattisgarh spent Rs 858 crores in Salary and pension on its employees and in 2009 the same figure has reached Rs 6360 crores. Almost an 8 fold increase in as many years > > Can a state sustain this kind of increase in expenditure? > > regards > Shubhranshu > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (18) 1b. Re: What is development and whose development are we talking about? Posted by: "dearsaby" dears...@yahoo.com   dearsaby Tue Sep 8, 2009 9:41 am (PDT) Dear friend, You have mentioned the 8 fold increase in the salary and pensions of the government servants. Could you also tell us about the amount of money pocketed by the same , which was meant for development and distribution under various government programs for the poor and the elderly citizens of the country? Sebastian In chhattisgarh-n...@yahoogroups.com, "shu36garh" <smita...@...> wrote: > > Dear friends > > 13th Finance Commission report gives some data on the state's expenditure on Salary and pensions > > In the year 2001 Chhattisgarh spent Rs 858 crores in Salary and pension on its employees and in 2009 the same figure has reached Rs 6360 crores. Almost an 8 fold increase in as many years > > Can a state sustain this kind of increase in expenditure? > > regards > Shubhranshu > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (18) 2. Distribution of forest-land deed in Chhattisgarh will be over by De Posted by: "malini_s ." malin...@sify.com Tue Sep 8, 2009 9:36 am (PDT) I often wonder if it is being too shortsighted to keep wondering 'how' can this task of handing over forest pattas to rightful tribal owners be accomplished and in so short a time, etc. Perhaps we are missing a much bigger gameplan of the State of pushing a community towards private ownership and then claim it back to profit-making vested interests - the corporates. Afterall isn't LAA and attempts to amend protective measures such as the state tenancy acts a calculated move towards that? Aren't the torchbearers of tribal rights being entrapped into achieving what the advocates of capitalists actually seek ? Malini Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 3a. Re: Bundelkhand :   Where NREGA is a failure Posted by: "dearsaby" dears...@yahoo.com   dearsaby Tue Sep 8, 2009 9:43 am (PDT) Dear friends, Our ex prime minister Rajeev Gandhi had already declared that all the govt. projects are going to fail and ordinary people will not benefit from them when he said that only 16 paise froma rupee reaches the rural areas. So this is no wonder if the NREGA is a failure in Bundelkhand. But in which place is it a success? Of course comparatively there are places which is doing better than Bundelkhand. As long as politicians and the bureaucrats are hand in glove to amass the wealth by hook or crook things will not change. Sebastian - In chhattisgarh-n...@yahoogroups.com, rahul <aaroh...@...> wrote: > > The clubbing of Kapildhara and NREGS has indeed been a disaster. Upto thirty wells have been dug in some villages in western Madhya Pradesh with most of them being failures. Bigger set of idiots than the bureaucracy in Madhya Pradesh will be difficult to find. > > Rahul Banerjee Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 4a. Re: Why is Bhaskar and Express afraid to print the response to  Shek Posted by: "rahul" aaroh...@yahoo.com   aarohini Tue Sep 8, 2009 9:45 am (PDT) There is a picture in the Hindustan Indore edition of today (should have been published one day earlier in Delhi as Indore gets the national news a day late) which shows farmers in Punjab demonstrating enmasse for cheap electricity supply for atleast eight hours a day for their pumpsets. Rahul Banerjee 74,Krishnodayanagar,Khandwa naka,Indore,Madhya Pradesh, India-452001 Cell no: +919926791773 webpage: http://rahulbanerjee.notlong.com blog: http://anar-kali.blogspot.com ________________________________ From: Himanshu Thakkar <ht.san...@gmail.com> To: chhattisgarh-n...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, 7 September, 2009 14:49:39 Subject: [chhattisgarh-net] Why is Bhaskar and Express afraid to print the response to Shekhar Gupta articles? Dear All, An article by Shekhar Gupta appeared in Bhaskar, incuding, I understand, in the Raipur eition on August 24, 2009: http://hindi. indiawaterportal .org/content/ ek_aur_harit_ kranti. Since it has been printed in Chhattisgarh, I am sending it to CGnet. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (2) 5a. Sickle cell anaemia grips 18 percent of Chhattisgarh Posted by: "malini_s ." malin...@sify.com Tue Sep 8, 2009 9:47 am (PDT) Dear Adarsh If what you deduce is right - that sickle cell anaemia is directly proportional to same caste/community marriages - then it certainly calls for a radical change in the way society and family is defined in the conventional notion. The fact that - as the news report mentions - in CG this is prominent in predominant tribal and OBC districts does point towards a conventional way of living. We may adore the tribal way of life for many of our own misplaced values, but the fact is they are a conservative lot too. Malini Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 5b. Re: Sickle cell anaemia grips 18 percent of Chhattisgarh Posted by: "alok_ksharma" alok_ksha...@yahoo.com   alok_ksharma Tue Sep 8, 2009 3:37 pm (PDT) Think about it again. There is only one way genetic mutaions can be eliminated from a population - when individuals with such mutations do not reproduce. With the death of all such individuals, the mutation is eliminated. But beyond that, you can only hope to confine that mutation in one section of the population by discouraging interbreeding across the unmutated and mutated populations. If, as is the case now, the sickle cell mutations are confined to demographically segregated populations, what's the point of deliberate intermixing? That will just explode the number of carriers in the entire population resulting after a few generations in everyone being a carrier thus making it impossible for anyone to reproduce without the risk of the baby having sickle cell disease. For example, everyone being a carrier will lead to ATLEAST 25% (do the math) of the population suffering from the disease in the next generation which will be much more than 9%( from the 200K sample observation so far). Also, there is no need to mandate an intercaste marriage to prevent this disease. The technology is available to screen at the individual level. You can screen at the individual level before marriage to find out if your potential offsprings will have the disease or will be carriers or unmutated. Finally, none of the above arguments should determine a social mandate on who marries whom. The choice of a life partner is a personal decision and should remain that way. It is nobody's business but the girl and the guy's to decide if they want to get married to each other. Alok --- In chhattisgarh-n...@yahoogroups.com, adarsh chandrakar <adars...@...> wrote: > > Namaskar, > > We might be able to find short term medical solution to this problem because the root cause of this problem is a social disease, which is very minimal inter caste marriages in Chhattisgarh. > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 6. Off topic: Powerful Corporate grabbing land for FOOD in starving nat Posted by: "vijendra Aznabi" vij...@gmail.com Tue Sep 8, 2009 10:42 pm (PDT) *Powerful Corporates grabbing land for FOOD in starving nations.* An internal document recently posted on the International Rice Research Institute (IRRI) website reveals that IRRI has been advising Saudi Arabia in the context of its strategy to acquire farm land overseas for its own food production. According to IRRI's notes of its March 2009 meeting with Saudi government officials, potential countries for Saudi investment in rice production include Ethiopia, Sudan, Egypt, Tanzania, Mozambique, Mali and southern Brazil. As a result of the meeting, IRRI was invited to identify "research areas that need additional support at IRRI and are relevant to the Saudi overseas initiative, approximate budget, and some directives for investments in overseas rice production." IRRI also met with private investors involved in the Kingdom's plans for outsourced rice production. One such company, Foras International, informed IRRI of its acquisition of 500,000 ha of farmland in Senegal, 200,000 ha of farmland in Mali and 10,000 acres (4,000 ha) of farmland in Sudan to grow rice. According to Reuters, Foras is managing a project, called 7X7, which over a 7-year period aims to produce 7 million tonnes of rice on 700,000 hectares of land, mainly in Senegal and Mail. Mauritania, Uganda, Sudan and Niger have been named as other potential targets. In an email to GRAIN, Foras confirmed that it has already acquired land on the banks of major rivers in Mali and Senegal for this project. IRRI has signed a Memorandum of Understanding to collaborate with Foras. For Saudi Arabia, the stakes are high. It is the world's third largest importer of rice and much of its highly coordinated overseas farming plans revolve around this staple grain. Its food import bill is projected to soar to $15 billion this year, up 25% from 2008. In GRAIN's view, it would seem a matter of time before the international agricultural research establishment would get caught up in these land grabs as they involve huge new investments that offer fresh funding to resolve technical production problems. IRRI is often considered the world's premier rice research institute and is member of the Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research, housed at the World Bank. http://www.grain.org/articles/?id=52 Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity  9 New Members Visit Your Group Yahoo! Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. Weight Management Group on Yahoo! Groups Join the challenge and lose weight. Yahoo! Groups Small Business Group Improve your business by community exchange Need to Reply? 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