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- 1a.
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Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:24 am (PDT)
excessive beef eating, soyabean cultivation and general loss of agricultural biodiversity combined with control of international trade in agricultural products by a few multi nationals are all part of an unsustainable agricultural regime supported by massive government subsidies the end result of which is the malnourishment of children all over the world including in the USA where 34.6 million americans were going to bed hungry in 2002 http://docs.google.com/gview?a=v&q=cache:d4t-4QSjwoMJ:www.worldfoodprize.org/assets/YouthInstitute/05proceedings/Jefferson-ScrantonHighchool.pdf+child+malnourishment+in+the+USA&hl=en&gl=in&sig=AFQjCNHVQYuS4cSul0mPYNPMrm5H0lPriw
and as far as overeating is concerned the stats for the USA are ( http://www.annecollins.com/obesity/statistics-obesity.htm) -
* 58 Million Overweight; 40 Million Obese; 3 Million morbidly Obese
* Eight out of 10 over 25's Overweight
* 78% of American's not meeting basic activity level recommendations
* 25% completely Sedentary
* 76% increase in Type II diabetes in adults 30-40 yrs old since 1990
Organic agriculture can not only be as productive as chemical agriculture but it can also sequester carbon in much larger quantities( http://www.cnr.berkeley.edu/csrd/publications/pdf/tweeten_co2.pdf.) the main problem is in ensuring the production of organic manure on a large scale. if subsidies are provided for this instead of for chemical fertilisers, pesticides and fossil fuel energy then a more environmentally and socially sustainable agriculture is possible. one can refuse to acknowledge the unsustainability of the current industrial and agricultural systems not to speak of the financial system ( agricultural insurance and reinsurance worldwide is run on government subsidies) but that will only lead to another collapse and a more dangerous one in future.
Rahul Banerjee
74,Krishnodayanagar ,Khandwa naka,Indore,Madhya Pradesh, India-452001
Cell no: +919926791773
webpage: http://rahulbanerjee.notlong.com
blog: http://anar-kali.blogspot.com
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From: Tobu <alok_ksharma@yahoo.com>
To: chhattisgarh-n...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 29 September, 2009 22:57:35
Subject: [chhattisgarh-net] Re: 55% kids in MP malnourished
I did not say 80% of people are responsible for their own miseries. Of all the actions that can improve your situation, 80% can be acted on by yourself. But most of the time people would blame it on something out of their control to give themselves an excuse for not acting.
Waiting for arabs and chinese to eat less beef so that MP kids can get proper nutrition is absurd. To me, blaming higher production of soybean as a prime cause of malnourishment of MP kids is absurd as well and a cruel joke. By implication every kid whose parents don't grow pulses - teachers, steel workers, software engineers.., should have been malnourished.
The cause is the lack of purchasing power of those farmers. Given where the crop prices are and the cost of farming, either you can raise the price (or produce higher priced crop) or reduce the expenses to increase the income. If the problem is volatility of income due to crop failure, there should be crop insurance. If the problem is not about purchasing power but availability, you need better distribution system.
Finally, it is unacceptable to have a malnourished kid just because his parents do not have enough income to feed him. Lack of parent's income is none of the kid's fault. He should not be made to suffer for it beyond a certain point. This is not just about that one kid. Children going hungry should be a shame to everyone in the society. So do something about it but don't wait for the arabs and chinese to eat less beef.
Alok
- 2a.
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Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:26 am (PDT)
What is also worrying is the huge volume of agriculture land which has fallen in the hands of the business community of Chhattisgarh, all outsiders by the way.All these people do is just keep the land as investment,they don't even do agriculture thus considerably reducing farm produce in Chhattisgarh.
prabhat
--- In chhattisgarh-n...@yahoogroups.com, rahul <aaroh...@...> wrote:
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> Apart from the social consequences what is ominous about this development from an agricultural and water resource point of view is that the Haryanvi farmers are now cultivating cash crops with ground water. This is what has crippled agriculture in Punjab, Haryana and Western Uttar Pradesh and now it is going to be spread to Chhattisgarh.
>
> Rahul Banerjee
> 74,Krishnodayanagar,Khandwa naka,Indore,Madhya Pradesh, India-452001
> Cell no: +919926791773
> webpage: http://rahulbanerjee.notlong.com
> blog: http://anar-kali.blogspot.com
> ________________________________
> From: Shubhranshu Choudhary <s...@...>
> To: chhattisgarh-net <chhattisgarh-n...@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, 27 September, 2009 19:10:31
> Subject: [chhattisgarh-net] Jatland in Chhattisgarh : An article in Open magazine
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>
> Jatland in Chhattisgarh
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> BY Dhirendra K. Jha | 26 September 2009 | OPEN magazine
>
> Itâs never happened before. Settlers from one state have taken over large
> parts of anotherâs farmland, altering the farm economy, power equations and
> social setup
>
> http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/nation/jatland-in-chhattisgarh
>
- 3a.
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Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:27 am (PDT)
Today BJP leader Rajnath is also going to pay his tributes to Baliram Kashyap,bold tribal leader.
Kashyap was bold enough to speak against Advani's candidature as P.M. and blamed BJP's loss in Lok Sabha to this.Previously also he has spoken against some communities originally not from Bastar for exploiting the Bastar region so I wonder how many BJP leader really felt sorry when he lost his son Tansen.
One thing is sure that no matter what happens it will be the tribal who will loose their lives in the ongoing conflict in Bastar.First it was Darbar Singh Mandavi and now Tansen Kashyam plus hundreds of innocent villagers and policemen.
Prabhat
--- In chhattisgarh-n...@yahoogroups.com, Shubhranshu Choudhary <s...@...> wrote:
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> Chhattisgarh MP's son shot dead by MaoistsIANS 26 September 2009,
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Chhattisgarh-MPs-son-shot-dead-by-Maoists/articleshow/5059792.cms
- 4a.
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Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:27 am (PDT)
an editorial in Economic and Political Weekly ( http://epw.in/epw/uploads/articles/13927.pdf) on the world bank loan is where i got this data and the relevant portion reads as follows -
"First, on a purely financial basis it must be somewhat ridiculous that while
the Reserve Bank of India currently earns only 2-3% a year on its
foreign currency assets, the government is eager to obtain a
$2.5-$3 billion foreign currency loan for the banking sector at an
annual interest rate of 10-12%."
however, going to the world bank page ( http://www.worldbank.org.in/external/default/main?sortDesc=DOCDT&theSitePK=295584&pagePK=51187344&cntry=82602&menuPK=2864500&piPK=51448748 for projects in India I found the following statement regarding the loan pricing policy with regard to these loans -
"The new IBRD loan pricing policy approved by the World Bank's Board on September
29, 2007, has simplified the pricing o f IBRD loans, resulting in the elimination o f commitment
fees. At present, after factoring in the benefits o f sub-LIBOR funding costs and taking into
account the expected disbursement profile o f the loan, based on current forward LIBOR rates the
all-inclusive cost o f the proposed IBRD loan i s estimated at 5.07 percent and 6.31 percent per
annum for the variable and fixed-spread alternatives, respectively. "
in addtion to this there is a front end processing fee of 0.25% of the loan amount.
as i am a financial illiterate i dont know how EPW has arrived at its figure.Rahul Banerjee
74,Krishnodayanagar,Khandwa naka,Indore,Madhya Pradesh, India-452001
Cell no: +919926791773
webpage: http://rahulbanerjee.notlong.com
blog: http://anar-kali.blogspot.com
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From: Tobu <alok_ksharma@yahoo.com>
To: chhattisgarh-n...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 28 September, 2009 20:16:51
Subject: [chhattisgarh-net] Re: World bank loan to India
Dear Rahul,
10-12% rate seems weird. Can you check it?
It is basicaly a sovereign lending to the govt. of India. I don't think someone can charge 12% on that. Generally if it is a dollar denominated debt it should be floating rate of Libor+ (some basis points). Yes, in dollar denominated debt you have the exchange rate and floating risk but they are liquidly hedgeable.
Alok
- 5a.
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Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:30 am (PDT)
" One poet wrote " Rahne ko Jagah nahi fir bhi hindustan hamara hai"..for all you know some of these slums are used by multy national organisations to keep stocks ( I have seen few pepsy stored in Bandra slums). Yes poor are seen but many of them are slum mafia who are waiting for some political swing so that they can be legalised and then can sale the land or get that converted in to something else.
The index now to be changed as
1: slums without AC
2: Slums with AC
3: Slums of poor
4: Slums of :)
But fact remains our Nanya still sleep in village of CG without proper food and roof. And Few slums can be seen with AC in the window....
Regards
Girish
--- In chhattisgarh-n...@yahoogroups.com, CGNet <cgnet...@.. .> wrote:
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> Every second person in Mumbai resides in slum: UNDP
>
> MUMBAI: One in two persons resides in a slum in India's financial
> capital, according to a report. "Worldwide, one in three persons lives
> in a slum. But the figures are much higher for Mumbai where 54.1% of
> the population are slum dwellers as per 2001 Census. This means that
> one in two persons in Mumbai city is residing in a slum," the Human
> Development Report compiled by Brihanmumbai Municipal Corporation
> (BMC) and UNDP says. "They occupy just six per cent of all land in
> Mumbai explaining the horrific levels of congestion," it added. Delhi
> has 18.9%, Kolkata 11.72% and Chennai 25.60% in slums. Some 29%,
> between a fourth and third of Maharashtra's urban population resides
> in Mumbai's slums. The first cut-off date was 1976, meaning the slums
> settled prior to 1975 were recognised and notified. The present
> cut-off date for notification of slums is 1995 but the government
> recently declared that pre-2000 slums would be regularised. In
> 2006-07, the city had a per capita income of Rs 65,361, twice than the
> country's average per capita income of Rs 29,382. Despite having the
> highest per capita income in the country, the income of nearly 10%
> population of the city is not above Rs 591.75 per month, which means
> Rs 20 a day. These families do not have amenities like TV, fridge,
> fan, toilets in their house, source of water supply, do not own any
> vehicle or farm. Quoting a report on Urban Poverty Reduction Strategy
> by the Regional Centre for Urban and Environmental Studies, All India
> Institute of Local Self-Government, UNDP said, in 1998 poverty was
> much low at only 8.5%.A baseline survey of 16,000 slum households by
> the MMRDA for its Mumbai Urban Transport Project says, with an average
> monthly household income of Rs 2,978, and 40% of them were below the
> poverty line. The UNDP report says, the poor in Mumbai are residing
> across three distinct habitat categories. The first of these is the
> chawls - either single or multistoreyed, single-room tenements and
> pavement dwellers. The poor who live there include migrants,
> construction workers, street vendors, domestic help, beggars, waste
> pickers, sex workers, taxi and auto rickshaw drivers and workers. As
> per the report, the slum and hutment dwellers of unauthorised
> structures form an integral part of this vibrant metropolis. Most of
> the slum dwellers participate in the "informal economy" which by all
> accounts would appear to be growing, the report said. "No country in
> the industrial age has ever achieved significant economic growth
> without urbanisation. If migration and urbanisation are two sides of a
> coin, slums are the natural outcomes of urbanisation. Not all poor
> people live in slums, and not all people who live in areas defined as
> slums are poor," the report said. Urban poverty is not seen as only
> income poverty but absence of access to basic civic services as well
> and the quality of their habitats. âHowever, for the sake of
> simplicity, the urban poor can be termed the slum dwellers,â it said.
> Poor qualities of shelter, extreme overcrowding, poor access to public
> services, including basic civic facilities as well as insecurity of
> land tenure in most cases are the other markers of poverty, the report
> said, adding, "there has been no change in the condition of the slum
> dwellers even though the non-slum areas in the city have improved
> their lifestyles." "Therefore, a slum-dweller deserves not patchy,
> incidental, but focused attention, probably positive treatment or
> positive discrimination - to bring them into the mainstream of the
> city to which they contribute," the report said. (Times of India
> 4/9/09)
>
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