[chhattisgarh-net] Digest Number 2310

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chhattisgarh-net Messages In This Digest (3 Messages) 1. Interview with Himanshu Kumar on Cycle Yatra in Rajasthan From: Tejaswini Madabhushi 2a. Re: Fake Encounters in Jharkhand From: Amitabh Thakur 2b. Re: Fake Encounters in Jharkhand From: sadanandpatwardhan View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1. Interview with Himanshu Kumar on Cycle Yatra in Rajasthan Posted by: "Tejaswini Madabhushi" mtejasw...@gmail.com   tejaswini84 Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:11 am (PDT) Dear friends We spoke with Himanshu Kumar yesterday as he continues on his Cycle Yatra in Rajasthan. In this conversation, he speaks about the discrimination that Dalits and Adivasis go through in everyday life in Rajasthan and the impact of Vedanta on the people and the environment: In many of these places dalits and adivasis cannot sit on their cots while an upper caste person passes by, they cannot wear footwear and grooms are not allowed to ride a horse in front of upper caste people's homes. He also narrates how activists and even policemen were beaten up when they tried to support the adivasis. Himanshu ji also spoke about the impact of Hindustan Zinc in Chittor, a former public sector firm now majority-owned by Vedanta [Hindustan Zinc claims it is Indias largest and the worlds second largest integrated producer of zinc & lead, with a global share of approximately 6.0% in zinc. Hindustan Zinc has operations in Rajasthan, Gujarat, Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka.]. They have evicted people from several villages in this process. There have been protests against these evictions in four of the villages for the past nearly five months days, with no media coverage so far. A dam is being constructed in the same area, submerging villages and without proper rehabilitation for the people, leaving them without shelter or livelihood. The factories that have come up have not provided employment though such employment was promised. The few that were employed are not being paid even minimum wages. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx70sQdNiOE Balaji Narasimhan Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 2a. Re: Fake Encounters in Jharkhand Posted by: "Amitabh Thakur" amitab...@yahoo.com   amitabhth Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:18 pm (PDT) Mr Gladson, I don't know you personally as much as you don't know me. My brief introduction is that I am an IPS officer in Uttar Pradesh, currently on study leave at IIM Lucknow. This fact is slightly pertinent in this case which is a subject matter of intense debate today. While many of the facts that you have presented, I am not in a position to comment upon, due to the lack of first hand information. But but sentence of yours which I was really touched by goes like this- "most of the people keep quiet on the case of fake encounter because the licensed killings are not only accepted in our so-called civilized society but we also applaud for it, award the killers and make them heroes of our Indian society, which foundation lies on the non-violence ethos." If at all there is such a perception, it is really dangerous for every one. I would agree with you that one wrong cannot help mend another one. The issue is a delicate one, with two sides having clearing delienated views- one claiming the need for safety and security of the State and the other being vehement about personal right to liberty and other Human rights. There must be a correct way in between. Amitabh Thakur IPS, Currently at IIM Lucknow # 94155-34526 Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) 2b. Re: Fake Encounters in Jharkhand Posted by: "sadanandpatwardhan" 2sadan...@gmail.com   sadanandpatwardhan Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:01 pm (PDT) "....one claiming the need for safety and security of the State and...." The State finds the need to be safe & secure above the interests of the common citizenry is precisely the problem that ails the Representative Democracy. When last man in this country is safe & secure, and that means not just from physical violence but from hunger/ mal-nutrition/ diseases/ ignorance/ arbitrary displacement/, then & then alone there would be real Safety & Security for all. Until then all the devotion & attention of the State and its Machinery would be directed at self-preservation beyond all other concerns. Therefore, the correct way would be to answer these real issues that Human, Food, Education, Energy, Health, Information & Transparency Rights Activists are exposing, demanding and defending. Sadanand Patwardhan --- In chhattisgarh-n...@yahoogroups.com, Amitabh Thakur <amitab...@...> wrote: > > Mr Gladson, > > I don't know you personally as much as you don't know me. My brief introduction is that I am an IPS officer in Uttar Pradesh, currently on study leave at IIM Lucknow. This fact is slightly pertinent in this case which is a subject matter of intense debate today. > While many of the facts that you have presented, I am not in a position to comment upon, due to the lack of first hand information. > But but sentence of yours which I was really touched by goes like this- > "most of the people keep quiet on the case of fake encounter because > the licensed killings are not only accepted in our so-called civilized > society but we also applaud for it, award the killers and make them > heroes of our Indian society, which foundation lies on the non-violence > ethos." > If at all there is such a perception, it is really dangerous for every one. I would agree with you that one wrong cannot help mend another one. > The issue is a delicate one, with two sides having clearing delienated views- one claiming the need for safety and security of the State and the other being vehement about personal right to liberty and other Human rights. > There must be a correct way in between. > > Amitabh Thakur > IPS, > Currently at IIM Lucknow > # 94155-34526 > Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (3) Recent Activity  11 New Members Visit Your Group Give Back Yahoo! for Good Get inspired by a good cause. Y! Toolbar Get it Free! easy 1-click access to your groups. Yahoo! Groups Start a group in 3 easy steps. Connect with others. Need to Reply? Click one of the "Reply" links to respond to a specific message in the Daily Digest. Create New Topic | Visit Your Group on the Web Messages Visit our website: http://www.cgnet.in Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! 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