You can disagree with me all you want. In fact this will be my last post to you on the subject. I've tried to help you out but you've allowed the raw cult to brainwash you from rational thinking. I have told this before, I had a friend in another group whose dog died from raw. He had read all the raw stuff and got sucked in. His dog is dead. He emailed and asked for my phone #. I had to listen to him ball like a child for 30 minutes about how he'd killed his dog, the guilt he felt, how his little girl wouldn't come out of her room. I tried to tell him but he wouldn't listen. No one wants to listen until its too late. This feeding method is _Dangerous_!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its all over the net about grapeseed extract. Google it. I really have spent more effort on this than should be necessary. That was the first one I found. I can understand you being skeptical since I am a lot skeptical of the folks that come in here from the raw group that are one sided too. The owner of that site has done 11 years of research on raw. What they say makes since to me. Chris --- In Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com, "ntvlawher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I must disagree with you here Chris, > > this is absolutely the only thing I have ever read; (and I have > trained in homeopathic medicine for many many years), that even hints > that grapefruit seed extract is ineffective. > > In terms of the bitter taste, the ratio of extract to meat is so > minute that it is ulikely to even be tasted by the animals, when > combined with the rest of the ingredients. > > Although I am not attempting to imply that your source is unreputable, > or invalid, I am a little skeptical of any source that is so > completely one sided. Good research will highlight the pros and cons > of the sbject matter, and not read like a unilateral miltant manual. > > DD. > > If you know of other unbiased sources that denote grapefruit seed > extract as being lees than effective, I would like to read them. > > > --- In Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <campinnut@> wrote: > > > No grapeseed WILL NOT!! > > > > From: http://www.secondchanceranch.org/training/raw_meat/myths.html > > > > False: Grapefruit seed extract kills all dangerous bacteria. > > > > Truth: This is completely un-scientific and unproven. Furthermore, > > some bacteria thrive in the acid environment of the stomach. > > Grapefruit Seed extract is irritating to the dog's stomach lining and > > the taste is bitter. > > > > --- In Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com, "ntvlawher" <ntvlawher@> wrote: > > > > > > I have really mixed feelings about raw, so I have done some research > > > on my own and have come up with the following points: > > > > > > 1. Grapefruit seed extract is a natural antibacterial agent that will > > > kill mold, bacteria, salmonela and other bacterias found in meat. I > > > have added this to the preperation of my meat food. > > > > > > 2. Because i have a dog with diabetes, it has been recommended that I > > > feed a high fibre diet. I have noticed through testing that my dog > > > goes into lipophase, (bad for diabetics) when he is on meat only, so I > > > have added a bit of cooked brown rice to level this process out, and > > > balance his protein with a high fibre carb. > > > > > > 3. My chi is overweight, so he doesn't get the rice. > > > > > > 4. I add about a cup of boiling water to the pins food and about half > > > to three quarters to the chis food, it is enough to heat through the > > > meat. > > > > > > 5. I also mix the food with plain yogourt with live bacteria culture > > > (after the water cools slightly) to help the intestines and digestion > > > process maintain healthy flora to combat any bad bacteria. > > > > > > These things have worked for me, so far so good. > > > > > > I also grind my own beef that I get from the butcher. > > > > > > I guess, in short we are never going to all agree on what the best > > > method for feeding our pets is, but for me, I have found a system that > > > I feel safe and comfortable with. Really that is such a big part of > > > the battle. > > > > > > DD. > > > " Lets talk about our wonderful little friends! Join today! " Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chihuahuas/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
