*CHODOSH BULLETIN-12 Nov  07*

*From the Guide to Chodosh-Y. Herman*

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*THE FOLLOWING AS OF 12 NOV 07*

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*REVISED URGENT WARNING: GEFEN BARLEY*

The Gefen Company asked that an urgent bulletin be issued. Due to a production error, two batches of Gefen barley are NOT YOSHON. These have the codes of 10-22-09 and 10-29-09. All other batches of barley continue to be Yoshon under hashgocho, both those produced before these batches and those to be produced in the future. We thank the company for this alert that was issued as soon as the problem was discovered. _This batch of Chodosh barley will first be sent to the stores during the week of Nov 11.
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The next issue of the Guide is due BE"H in about 2 weeks.
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*Superior Caterers*, 54 Ave O, Brooklyn is Yoshon under the hasghocho of Rabbi Yechiel Babad only for catering done in halls. The hashgocho does not cover catering done in Yeshivas and other institutions.

*Dependable Foods *update: All consumer high gluten flour in brown bags of size 5, 6 and 7 pounds are Yoshon. The following are commercial size items. The following lot number are Yoshon: Dough 7221 and 7228. All pasta are Yoshon. Noodles: fine up to and including lot #292, medium and wide up to and including #266. Egg barley #2687 and 1647. Pearled barley up to and including #108/081. High gluten bakery flour All Trumps up to and including 8/15/07. Dependable High flour up to and including #AL248 or marked Yoshon. Fantastic up to and including #AL248 or marked Yoshon. Patent flour: Dependable Bakers up to and including #AL248 or marked Yoshon. Full Strength up to and including 8/15/07.Superlative up to and including 8/15/07. Whole wheat fine and coarse up to and including 10/6/07 or marked Yoshon.

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*THE FOLLOWING AS OF 8 NOV 07*

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*IMPORTANT CORRECTION REGARDING SOY, TERRIAKI AND TAMARI SAUCES*

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_Summary_: The Guide stated that soy, terriaki and tamari sauces that have wheat in the ingredients may be Chodosh starting with the packing date of Aug 9. In fact, these are _surely Yoshon at least up to the packing date of Jan 9 (5 months after Aug 9, the Chodosh date for wheat)_ and may be free of Chodosh problems completely.

_Details_: After being alerted by some mashgichim, we discussed the method of production of these sauces with expert chemists who actually produce them. Here is what we learned:

   * All these sauces that contain wheat are fermented over a period of
     time that is _5 months or longer_. All sauces that are produced in
     a shorter time do not contain any wheat.
   * The flour when used is from spring wheat that may be Chodosh.
   * In the production of the fermented soy sauce, wheat flour and some
     spores are added at the same time to start the fermentation. The
     spores produce the fermentation, the wheat flour is added only to
     allow the spores to be more evenly distibuted in the liquid and to
     do a better job. The wheat flour, which at the start is about 7%
     of the starting volume, is almost completely consumed during the
     fermentation.
   * Terriaki sauce is produced the same way, except they start with
     only about 3.5% wheat.
   * Tamari sauce uses much less wheat.

From a halachic point of view, this production method seems identical to the question we raised many years ago regarding plain white household vinegar. The vinegar is produced from non-Chodosh alcohol. There, some barley malt plus other chemicals are used in combination to cause the alcohol to ferment into vinegar. In the process, the malt is virtually eliminated (much less than 1/60.). There we consulted several poskim who all ruled that the barley malt is botul. Based on that we believe that in the case of these sauces, as well, the wheat flour may be botul. Please consult your own posek regarding the question of bitul. However, since it takes at least 5 months to complete the fermentation of these sauces, there can not be any Chodosh problem before Jan 9, ’08 in any case.

We would like to express our appreciation to Rabbi Mordechai Kuber and Rabbi Mordechai Tarkieltaub who brought this matter to our attention.

CLARIFICATION OF KCL HASHGOCHOS IN LAKEWOOD

*? Heimishe Bakery* in Lakewood. All breads, rolls and challehs are Yoshon under the hashgocho of the KCL except 6-grain bread.

*? J2 Pizza**, *1700 Madison Ave, Lakewood. Calzones, cheese pretzels are Yoshon, under the hashgocho of the KCL.

*? Pizza Plus*, 241 4^th St., Lakewood. The following are Yoshon under the hashgocho of the KCL.: pizza, calzones, garlick nosh, knishes.

*OTHER ITEMS*

*? Bagel Munch*, 200 Main Ave, Passaic. Yoshon under the hashgocho of the Vaad of Passaic.

*/? /**Ben Yehuda Pizzeria**, *pizza, calzones and panninis are Yoshon under the hashgocho of the Rabbinical Council of Greater Washington. Sandwiches and rolls are NOT Yoshon.

*? Sienna’s Café*, 11417 Woodglen Drive, Rockville, MD. Pizza, calzones and foccacia are Yoshon under the hashgocho of the Rabbinical Council of Greater Washington. Rolls, subs, and sandwiches are NOT Yoshon.

*? **Twizzlers, Twirpz* and other licorice made by Hershey or the Y. S. brand are from winter wheat and are Yoshon.

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*THE FOLLOWING AS OF 5 Nov 07*

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*WARNINGS:*

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Matzo meal has always been assumed to be Yoshon. We believe that this is still true for _real_ matzo meal. However, at least one brand of “fake” matzo meal is being sold under the brand name of Kerry. This product, which is under the kashrus hashgocho of the Kof-K, is really made from bread crumbs which may be Chodosh. We do not know at this time if there are other such “fake” matzo meals on the market. Neither do we have information yet on which products may use the Kerry “matzo meal”. We will publish any new information that we uncover via the usual email updates and Hot Line News recordings.

*PRODUCT AND ESTABLISHMENT CHANGES*

*/? /**Café Eilat* 12519 Burbank Blvd. Yoshon under the hashgocho of the Kehilla Kosher of Los Angeles.

*? Empire Bagel Shoppe, * 2234 Warrensville Center Rd., University Heights, OH, 216-382-5138. Yoshon under the hashgocho of Cleveland Kosher.

*/? /**Greenspun Bagels* made in Baltimore, Yoshon under the hashgocho of the Vaad Hakashrus of Baltimore (Star-K).

*/?/ Grill Point*, 69-54 Main St, Flushing, NY Yoshon under the hashgocho of the Vaad Harabonim of Queens.

*/? /** Love Bakery*, 17519 Burbank Blvd. Yoshon under the hashgocho of the Kehilla Kosher of Los Angeles.

*/? /** Rosendorff’s *bakery products made in Baltimore, Yoshon under the hashgocho of the Vaad Hakashrus of Baltimore (Star-K).

/?/* 15^th Ave Food Corp**, also sold under the names Sterns**, Kohen**, and New York Ko**sher *All items are even without a Yoshon label. The following are NOT Yoshon: the six grain breads, the bran muffins and the oatmeal cookies. There are retail bakeries in Brooklyn under the Korn name. These bakeries are not certified as being Yoshon.

*?** Adirim* pasta. The farfel only is Yoshon under the hashgocho of Rabbi Sholomo Gissinger. We have no information regarding other pasta from Adirim.

*/?/ Beigel’s Bakery*, 189-09 Union Tpk, Fresh Meadows. Queens. All cakes, danishes and challehs baked on premises are Yoshon. However Tibeca rolls are not Yoshon on Tuesday and Thursday. Under the hashgocho of the Vaad Harabbanim of Queens. (Note: This is different than the wholesale Beigel’s Bakery listed in the wholesale section above.)

*/?/ Benjy’s Pizza*, 78-72 Main St. Flushing, NY pizza only is Yoshon, under the hashgocho of the Vaad Harabbanim of Queens.

*?** Chai Pizza*, 94 Rt. 59, Monsey. Yoshon except fried potatoes and possibly other fried items. Under the hashgocho of Rabbi Chaim Yaakov Horowitz.

*/?/** Chuster and Landau pasta* products produced by the Chuster Co. which have a Yoshon label are Yoshon under the hashgocho of Rabbi Abraham Z. Glick. However, soup mandlen are NOT Yoshon.

*?** Dagim** *frozen products are Yoshon, if there is an O-U plus a Yoshon label on the package.

*? Eden Cafe* at Owings Mills JCC, 3506 Gwynbrook Ave. 410-356-0010. The following products are Yoshon: pizza and pita. Must inquire as to the Yoshon status of all other items.(Star-K)

*? Eden Cafe* at Park Heights JCC, 5700 Park Heights Ave., 410-542-5185. The following products are Yoshon: pizza and pita. Must inquire as to the Yoshon status of all other items. .(Star-K)

*/? /**Eilat Bakeries*, at 350 N. Faifax Ave, 9233 W. Pico Blvd, and 12109 Santa Monica Blvd of Los Angeles are all Yoshon except muffins and pasta, under the hashgocho of the Kehilla Kosher of Los Angeles.

*/? /**Essex on Coney**, *1359 Coney Island Ave., Brooklyn, 718-253-1002, The American side is Yoshon, including the noodles and pasta, but _excluding the egg rolls, hamburger and frankfurter buns, baguettes, fries, square knishes. _Also excluded are anything that is fried *or breaded*.

*? **European Homemade Kosher, *Rt. 59, Monsey. All items kosher except items with egg rolls. Under the hashgocho of Rabbi Chaim Yaakov Horowitz.

*/? /Hoffman & Co. *catering, made in Baltimore, Yoshon available on request under the hashgocho of the Vaad Hakashrus of Baltimore (Star-K).

*/? /Jerusalem Pizza, * 17942 Ventura Blvd. Pizza only Yoshon under the hashgocho of Kehilla Kosher of LA.

*? KEMACH UPDATES*: COOKIES AND CRACKERS: Bread sticks, sesame, whole wheat and garlic, both consumer size and the 5 pound food service size are Yoshon all season, including the malt. _Kemach spelt matzos_ from Israel are Yoshon. All cookies except those with oatmeal are from winter wheat. Oatmeal cookies may be Chodosh starting with the packing date of Jul 26, code 7207 (7=year, 207=day of the year.) Also from winter wheat are Kem Kem crackers, whole wheat & Bran crackers, Snackers, Grahams and sandwich cookies. This includes crackers made from whole wheat and graham. _Malt _may be Chodosh starting Dec 15 (code 7 349, where 7=year, 349=day of the year). Flat bread (including whole wheat) may be Chodosh starting with the code of Jan 1, 2009 (13 months after packing.), Kemach _Egg noodles,_ _noodle cuts, bowties and farfel_, in small grocery size packages are Yoshon up to January 1 even without the label, although there should be a Yoshon label in any case. _After January 1_ it should be considered Yoshon _only when marked Yoshon_. Code for other pasta: for 1 pound grocery size packages, not the large bulk packages, for _spaghetti_ and _elbow macaroni_ 10/31/08 (1 year after packing). For _lasagna_ the code is 10/31/09 (2 years after packing). For the _10 pound bulk packages_ where the code ends with the letter Z, the Chodosh date is Oct 31, code 3047 31 Z 304=day of the year, 7=year, 31=not important, Z=factory. Large 20 pound packages of pasta have a Chodosh date of Sept 4 07, code 09/04/09 (2 years after packing. Chow Mein noodles have a Chodosh date of Aug 11, code 1007H (10=date, 07=year, H=month in alph. order). _All cereals that contain malt_ may have Chodosh malt starting with the code Dec 15 2008 (1 year after packing). Whole Wheat Flakes (like Total), Raisin Bran and Bran Flakes are from winter wheat. Also the wheat products in Cocoa Munchies is also from winter wheat. Sugar Puffed Wheat has the Chodosh code Oct 1 08 (1 year after packing). Toasted oats, Honey Nut Toasted Oats, Fruit Whirls, Honey Crunch (like Honeycombs), Corn Crisps (like Kix), Bunch ‘O Krunch, all have a Chodosh date of Sept 1 08. All soups with noodles Chodosh code is 2289 (228=day of year, 9=year+2). Soups with barley but no noodles or pasta have the Chodosh code of 2219. Vegetable soup Chodosh code is 1579.

*/? /Kosherific* fish sticks have a Chodosh code of 6 Tishrei 5768. Onion rings have a Chodosh code of V7050202 (7=year, 05=month, 02=date, 02 not important). Under the hashgocho of Rabbi Weissmandl.

*/? /Kosher Pizza Station,* 8965 W. Pico Blvd. Everything is Yoshon except whole wheat pita. Under the hashgocho of Kehilla Kosher of Los Angeles.

*/? /Kupel’s Bake and Bagel*, 421 Harvard St, Brookline. Only bread products are Yoshon, not pasties. Under the hashgocho of the Vaad Harabonim of Massachusetts

*/? /**Liebers *All* *cookies and crackers, regular, whole wheat or graham, _without oatmeal_, as well as pretzels, are Yoshon. *Liebers* cereals without oats are all Yoshon. At this time malt in the cereals is also Yoshon (last production was made some time ago.) Liebers may discontinue selling of cereals in the near future. Under the hashgocho of Rav Weissmandl. */? /**Liebers* soup mixes and soups in cups can not be recommended as Yoshon pending further clarification from the mashgiach, Rav Weissmandl.

/?/* Milk & Honey Bistro**,* 1777 Reisterstown Road, (410) 486-4344. Only the following items are yoshon: pizza, pasta, soups, cheese blintzes, french toast, and pancakes. Other items are available as yoshon upon request. Yoshon under the hashgocho of the Vaad Hakashrus of Baltimore (Star-K).

*/?/ Nanna’s Pizza*, pizza only is Yoshon, under the hashgocho of the Vaad Harabbanim of Queens.

*? **Old** City** Café *Macaroni and cheese has the Chodosh code 2277 (227=day of the year, 7=year). Under the of Rav-Weissmandl, and the OU.

*?** Pitaland*, Rt 59 at College Road, Monsey. Yoshon except fried potatoes and possibly other fried items. Under the hashgocho of Rabbi Chaim Yaakov Horowitz.

*/? /Samuel Adams* beer Chodosh code is March 1 08 under the hashgocho of the Vaad Hakashrus of Baltimore (Star-K).

*?** Sea Diamond** *frozen products are Yoshon, if there is an O-U plus a Yoshon label on the package.

*/? /Seven Mile Market* challehs made in Baltimore, Yoshon under the hashgocho of the Vaad Hakashrus of Baltimore (Star-K).

*/? /Shindler fish* products Yoshon under the hashgocho of the Vaad Hakashrus of Baltimore (Star-K) only if there is Yoshon label on the package.

*? Smackin Good *frozen pancakes are have a Chodosh code of 07160 (07=year, 160=day of the year). All other Smackin Good products are Yoshon. Under the hashgocho of Rabbi Weissmandl.

*/? /Taam Eden Bakery, *New Square. Everything Yoshon except whole wheat or 6 grain bread. Under the hashgocho of the Bais Din of New Square.

*? **Unger *frozen pie crust and tart shells have a Chodosh code of 07228J (07=year, 228=day of the year.) */? /**Unger *bread crumbs are Yoshon under the hashgocho of New Square Rabbinical Kashrus Council Under the hashgocho of New Square Rabbinical Kashrus Council.

*?** VegiCheff *frozen products are Yoshon , if there is an O-U plus a Yoshon label on the package.

*?** Zomick’s Bakery**, *444 Central Ave, Cederhurst. Any bread, even unwrapped and without a Yoshon label sold in the Zomick’s Bakery or can be definitely traced as being produced by Zomicks’s is Yoshon under the hashgocho of OK Labs.

*? Apollo Filo dough* by Athens Foods Chodosh code 2217 (221=day of year, 7=year.)

*? Beechnut baby cereals*. Oats cereal in boxes new Chodosh code Oct 26 08 (15 months after packing.)

Oats cereal in jars, new Chodosh code Jul 26 09 (2 years after packing.) Barley cereal in boxes new Chodosh code Aug 9 09 (2 years after packing.)

*? General Mills* Coco Puffs and Cheerios Oats Cluster Crunch cereals the package date is 372 days after packing. The General Mills cereal table has a typographical error. The oats code for the middle row starting “Reeses Puffs” should have been Jul 1 08 NOT Jul 1 07.

*? Goya barley* new Chodosh code 080910 (3 years after packing.)

*? Maltex cereal* new Chodosh code Aug 9 08 (1 year after packing.)

*? Maypo cereal*, new Chodosh code Jul 26 08 ( 1 year after packing.)

*? Pillsbury flour* codes: All purpose and bread flours code Feb 9 09 (18 months after packing.) Whole wheat and self rising flour code Aug 9 08 (1 year after packing.) Pillsbury all purpose flour is now only made in Buffalo, NY and not Kansas. Therefore that above codes are always relevant.

/? /*Quaker* oats cereals made in Canada and sold in the USA have a revised Chodosh packing date of Ocr 4. The table in the Guide should be changed to reflect this: 180 days=Apr 1 08, 270 days=Jun 30 08, 300 days= Jul 30 08, 360 days=Sept 28 08, 540 days=March 27 09.

? *Unger* cereals with oats the code is Jul 26 08 (1 year after packing).. For wheat or barley but no oats, code is Aug 9 08. If the corn flakes list wheat starch, then the code is Aug 9 08. If the cereal also has a Malt-O-Meal label, use the above date or the one given for Malt-O-Meal, whichever is earlier.

*? Wheatena cereal* new Chodosh code Feb 9 09 (18 months after packing.)

*/?/** Bodek* croutons are Chodosh according to the company.

*ESTABLISHMENTS NOT CONFIRMED YET FOR BEING UNDER HASHGOCHO FOR YOSHON*

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The first issue of the Guide was published early in the season, before there was the opportunity to verify the Yoshon status of many establishments and products. Those establishments that were not yet verified were marked by an “*”. We had made an effort to established the Yoshon hashgocho status of all of these establishments. Unless noted below, all of these marked by an “*” were confirmed to be Yoshon. Those which are not yet confirmed are listed here. After this are listed new establishments that are Yoshon.

The following are *_not recommended yet at this time as Yoshon due to lack of confirmation of hashgocho:_*

IN BROOKLYN: M&M Bakery, 2610 Ave U. Presser Bakery 1720 Ave. M. Chadash Pizza, 1919 Ave. M. Dagan Pizza 6187 Strickland Ave.

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*THE FOLLOWING AS OF AUG 28 07*

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