I would like to see auto refresh turned off by default. That might help the
load.
-- Mohamed Mansour


On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Nordman <micha...@google.com>wrote:

> Turning off auto refresh by default sounds reasonable idea right now...
> with an option to enable it if really desired... &autorefresh[=<n>] where n
> is a number of minutes maybe (defaults to 1) type thing.
> A fair amount of the load may just evaporate with that change.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Jeremy Orlow <jor...@google.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Adam Langley <a...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Albert J. Wong
>>> (王重傑)<ajw...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>> > That is pretty nuts.  Is it calling fsync or something crazy?  Since
>>> you
>>> > said strace, I'm assmuming linux. In that case, the buffer cache should
>>> be
>>> > saving you from disk accesses for most everything.
>>>
>>> Of course, vmstat 1 will tell you what disk IO is happening. If you
>>> don't have noatime, that would probably be good.
>>
>>
>> atop is a really nice program for getting a birds eye view of what's going
>> on with the system.  It's not installed by default, but if you're running
>> ubuntu, it's easy to install.
>>
>>
>> More generally: I think there are a couple uses of the build bots:
>> 1) Most people just want to know "can I commit" and then are watching one
>> specific CL's status.  In this case, not auto-refreshing is fine and not
>> much history is fine.
>> 2) Sheriffing is the one case where I think you actually do need
>> auto-refreshing, but normally you don't need a lot of history.  That said,
>> sometimes things fail and then....
>> 3) You're trying to fix things:  In this case you want to see a lot of
>> history (or at least need the option to see more) and you do NOT want it to
>> auto refresh.  I've definitely had times when I wish there was a "show me
>> more" button.  And I've definitely have been reading something far down the
>> page only to have it refresh on me.
>>
>> It seems to me that these requirements are diverse enough that one single
>> configuration isn't going to make everyone happy.  I know you can do a bunch
>> of customization so you can see exactly what you want, but I assume that
>> will only chew up more resources.  Maybe the right way to go is a couple
>> customized pages for each roll?  There's definitely much more information
>> there than people need most of the time, though.
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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