pp. 294-297 of WORLD CRISIS, VOL II. WSC quote is at p.297.

On Mar 4, 6:36 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> My editor at FINEST HOUR, the quarterly journal of The Churchill
> Centre, brought this to my attention and, ordinarily, I would not
> bother to respond to an unnecessary lecture on something I never
> implied, let alone wrote. But then I saw Mr. Downes' comment that he
> did not "know what was written" and hence had no context for
> appreciating how off-base Mr. Hayes' condescending comments were. And
> historically inaccurate to boot.
>
> First, some context for Mr. Downes. I have been writing for quite some
> time in the pages of FH a serial biography of Churchill titled "Action
> This Day" where every quarter I spend 2,000 words describing what
> Churchill was doing or saying during that season 125, 100, 75 and 50
> years ago. It is a quite pleasant assignment and I enjoy reading
> speeches, letters and other documents as well as Churchill's Official
> Biography to find things about his life that aren't as well known as
> others.  For example, Mr. Hayes' out-of-context quote was taken from
> my Action This Day Winter 2012 column and in the '75 Years Ago'
> segment (Winter 1936-37) of that column, I wrote of Churchill having
> spent the day with his first love Pamela (Plowden) Lytton while his
> wife Clementine was on a ski holiday in the Alps with their daughter
> Mary. All very innocent but sweet and I found it interesting because
> in research for my 2007 book on Churchill's coming of age BECOMING
> WINSTON CHURCHILL, THE UNTOLD STORY OF YOUNG WINSTON AND HIS AMERICAN
> MENTOR, I came across quite a few letters from Winston to Pamela which
> indicated their continuing affection for one another including a
> letter from Pamela in 1949 reminding Winston he had proposed to her 50
> years ago that day. Unfortunately, I missed that 1937 letter from
> Winston about their spending the day together so I made up for my
> earlier omission. More than you wanted to know Mr. Downes, I'm sure,
> but blame it on Mr. Hayes. And, of course, I get to plug my book.
>
> Second, the quote from my column by Mr. Hayes is incomplete. It was
> taken from the '100 Years Ago' segment (Winter, 1911-12) and is the
> last line from three paragraphs I wrote about Churchill's concerns in
> his new post as First Lord of the Admiralty on German naval expansion.
> Two days after he and his wife were asssaulted in Belfast by a mob of
> Irish Protestants, Churchill gave a speech in Glasgow on the
> respective naval power of Britain and Germany where he attempted to
> explain why sea power to an island nation like Britain was a
> "necessity" whereas it was "more in the nature of a luxury" to a
> continental power like Germany. A well-intentioned attempt by
> Churchill but an unfortunate choice of words, especially as he wanted
> to persuade the Germans to agree to a "naval holiday" in 1913 where
> neither country would build any capital ships. The ever-sensitive
> Germans did not react well. In fact, as you will read in my
> forthcoming ATD Spring 2012 column, Churchill wrote a letter intended
> for the Kaiser's eyes where he attempted to extract his foot from his
> mouth for the "luxury fleet" comment.  So, here is the last sentence
> from my column of which Mr. Hayes only quotes the last part. Pay close
> attention, Mr. Hayes, to my punctuation as writers typically use it
> for a reason ["colon-a punctuation mark (:) used after a word
> introducing a quotation, explanation...", The American Heritage
> Dictionary of the American Language, 5th Edition] :
>
> "It could be argued that Germany's desire to have a stronger fleet was
> not quite the luxury Churchill made it out to be at the time: Only six
> years later, German civilians were dying as a consequence of the
> British Fleet's successful blockade of German ports."
>
> End of sentence. End of my point, i.e., that Churchill's comment about
> the German fleet being a luxury was not only undiplomatic, it was
> incorrect. The characterization of that by Mr. Hayes "as though that
> were something heinous" are his words. And his alone. They're  not
> mine. And but for Mr. Hayes mis-characterization, we would all have
> been spared his little lecture. Far from my being critical of the
> British, the most you can infer from that is I was being critical of
> the German government for not having a navy either willing or able to
> protect their own citizens from starvation during a war. Most people
> would think that to be a basic governmental function.
>
> Third--and last--is my statement above that Mr. Hayes' comments were
> "historically inaccurate". By that I was referring to his statement
> that the British blockade (which was a major factor in Germany's
> eventual defeat) was "perfectly proper". If by that he meant "
> perfectly proper under international law in time of war", he's wrong.
> You can look it up. The US strongly protested on numerous occasions
> the illegality under internatonal law of the British blockade as it
> applied to US ships going to neutral ports. Churchill discusses this
> in some detail at pp. 294-294 of THE WORLD CRISIS, Vol II, his history
> of World War I and even he concedes that "It was not always possible
> to harmonize our action with the strict letter of the law. From this
> arose a series of delicate and deeply perplexing discussions in which
> rigid legalists across the Atlantic occupied a very strong
> position."
>
> Michael McMenamin
>
> On Mar 1, 10:26 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>
> > Mr. McMenahim's article states "Only six years later, German civilians were
> > dying of starvation as a consequence of the British fleet's successful 
> > blockade
> > of German ports." as though that was something heinous.
>
> > Excuse me, Mr. McMenahim, but we are talking about war.  Those of us who 
> > have
> > been in combat and have seen the "fall of shot and shell" have no illusions.
> > Perhaps the continuation of the blockade after the Armistice is debatable - 
> > and
> > there are certainly arguments on either side  -  but the blockade before 
> > that
> > was perfectly proper.  War is very nasty, and properly so.  The British 
> > blockade
> > was completely proper and the German civilian suffering was just would 
> > should
> > occur in modern war.
>
> > Sure am sorry 'bout that.  I don't like war any more than you do, but at 
> > least,
> > having been there, I don't have any illusions about it.
>
> > Jonathan Hayes- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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