Now I'm really confused.  Whose project is this?  I had originally thought it 
was Prof. Muller's project, in which case he would be free to change publishers 
in case they weren't producing.  I was then given to understand that it was a 
St. Augustine Press project and they had contracted with Prof. Muller to do the 
annotation. In that case, while they would control the publication date, Prof. 
Muller should be adequately compensated under his contract.
So how does the Churchill Centre all of a sudden come into this?  Who, if 
anyone, is running the show and are we ever going to see a published result?  
Or should we just kiss it off and go on to something else.
Jonathan Hayes


      From: STAN ORCHARD <bullfrogcont...@shaw.ca>
 To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 4:02 PM
 Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] The River War
   
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{margin-bottom:0in;}-->My interpretation of Lee's posting is that there is some 
financial contribution threshold from The Churchill Centre that needs to be 
reached before the book can be published.  And if the Centre had more cash flow 
the book would have been printed and shipped long ago.  If this is the case 
then why not just confess the shortfall and provide everyone with a realistic 
timeline to publication based upon facts and circumstances that everyone can 
understand.  Is this the end?  The beginning of the end?  Or, at least the end 
of the beginning?
Stan

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From: "Lee Pollock" <pollock...@rcn.com>
To: "churchillchat@googlegroups.com" <churchillchat@googlegroups.com>
Sent: 22 October, 2016 3:05 PM
Subject: RE: [ChurchillChat] The River War

Dear Jonathan:  I wish I could tell you and the other members of this chat 
group that Prof. Muller has been “well compensated” for his 15+ years of work 
on this immense undertaking, but that unfortunately is not the case.  While The 
Churchill Centre has been continuously supportive of his efforts on this and 
other Churchill works, we are a small non-profit and have limited funds 
available for grants for research and writing, no matter how worthy, as this 
edition of The River War surely is.   Specialized works of this kind do not 
garner big advances from publishers and St.  Augustine Press itself is a small 
independent enterprise in a world where the publishing and bookselling trades 
are under stress.  But I would like to offer the following suggestions:  1.     
  This chat group has a fairly large number of members, many of whom are not 
members of The Churchill Centre.  I encourage those of you who are not to join, 
which you can do online or by using the attached form.  If you so indicate, one 
hundred percent of your first year’s dues will be used to support the research 
and writing of Prof. Muller and other scholars.  2.       For those who are 
already members (and for others):  we welcome contributions of any amount that 
you might consider and you can designate that your funds be used to support 
publication of this new edition of The River War and/or for general research by 
Prof. Muller and others.  I hope you will all give favorable consideration to 
these suggestions.  Lee PollockExecutive DirectorThe Churchill CentreChicago, 
IL 60603lpoll...@winstonchurchill.org       From: 
churchillchat@googlegroups.com [mailto:churchillchat@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of chateaustegosau...@att.net
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 11:38 AM
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [ChurchillChat] The (mythical) River War  I, also, received a 
notice that the October pub date was off, but they didn't give a new one.  I 
hope Prof. Muller has been well compensated for his work 'cause there ain't 
going to be any royalties.  Jonathan Hayes  From: Dave Turrell 
<daturr...@verizon.net>
To: churchillchat@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 4:40 PM
Subject: [ChurchillChat] The (mythical) River War  In doing some desultory web 
browsing today, I note that the latest date that St Augustine Press has been 
giving for publication of Jim Muller’s ‘River War’ (September 2016) has been 
and gone, like so many of their other proposed publication dates over the last 
15 years or more.  Checking with Amazon, it seems that they were, at least, not 
taken in by the latest, and still show a publication date of November 2013.  
While I think that most of us have come to accept the prospect of publication 
of this work as being something of a bizarre ongoing joke, I wonder if St. 
Augustine will get round to not referring to their offering as having a 
foreword by “Churchill’s only surviving child, Lady Soames”.  That strikes me 
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