I've been away for a couple of weeks and have just returned...but am off again today for awhile, but I will revert to any post on this topic when I return.
I've just seen the post that places my website www.deepblacklies.co.uk in the category of a CIA fake website by one Fintan Dunne - who I don't know and who doesn't know me. Doesn't this guy know that there are at least thirteen intelligence agencies in the US? Why is it that all those websites listed only work for the CIA. Don't any of the other twelve intell agencies employ contractors to disseminate dininfo. Sure they do. I'm thinking of one right now, in fact... Anyway. if anyone on this list has this Dunce's email address, can they kindly send it to me offlist. When I'm back in September I'll make some time to contact him and see how he stands up to some scrutiny and will then publish our exchanges on this list. If my past experience is anything to go on, he'll be a slippery as hell, refusing to support his assertion with any credible argument (because he can't) and will either avoid answering direct questions or, more likely, respond with old-fashioned deflection. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark urban" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 10:36 PM Subject: [cia-drugs] holy smokes! is there anyone who isn't a cia front? > fintan dunne's "J'ACCUSE" moment on the internets. I think Webfairy > escaped the fickle finger of fintan. > > http://www.kathymcmahon.utvinternet.com/mrn/TheCIAInternetFakes.htm > > The CIA's Internet Fakes > by Fintan Dunne, Editor, BreakForNews.com 4th August, 2005 > > URLs: BreakForNews.com/TheCIAInternetFakes.htm > WagNews.blogspot.com/2005/08/cias-internet-fakes.html > > > Note: We do not contend that everyone associated with these > websites are knowing intelligence operatives. Some have been > professionally manipulated, others merely misled. In any event these > are promoting the psyop agendas and disinformation themes of the > covert controllers. This is also not meant to be a fully > comprehensive listing of all the fake websites. > > The CIA Fakes presented by BreakForNews.com > PsyOpNews.com and Wagnews.Blogspot.com > > airamericaradio.com > albasrah.net > aljazeera.net > aljazeera.com > almartinraw.com > americanfreepress.net > angieon911.com > antiwar.com > apfn.org > arcticbeacon.com > > > batr.org > > bellaciao.org > bilderberg.org > blackboxvoting.org > bradblog.com > buzzflash.com > > cloakanddagger.ca > coasttocoastam.com > conspiracyarchive.com > conspiracyplanet.com > commondreams.org > cooperativeresearch.org > counterpunch.org > cryptome.org > > davidicke.com > > deepblacklies.co.uk > democracynow.org > dieoff.com > > earthfiles.com > ellsberg.net > > fromthewilderness.com > > > globalresearch.ca > > halfpasthuman.com > > infoclearinghouse.info > > infowars.com > inn.globalfreepress.com > internationalanswer.org > > jackblood.net > jihadunspun.com > jimmarrs.com > jmccanneyscience.com > johnbuchanan.org > johnkaminski.com > judicialwatch.org > justacitizen.com > justicefor911.org > > karlschwarz.com > konformist.com > kurtnimmo.com > > > larouchepub.com > > legitgov.com > letsroll911.org > libertyforum.org > libertythink.com > lovearth.net > > madcowprod.com > meria.net > monbiot.com > moveon.org > mysteriesofthemind.com > > > narconews.com > newswithviews.com > newtopiamagazine.com > nomorefakenews.com > > occupationwatch.org > oilempire.us > onlinejournal.com > > peakoil.net > plaguepuppy.net > prisonplanet.com > propagandamatrix.com > > > questionsquestions.net > > ralphnader.com > radioliberty.com > rawstory.com > rbnlive.com > recombinomics.com > rense.com > reopen911.org > rigorousintuition.blogspot > riverbend.blogspot > rumormillnews.com > > sanderhicks.com > savethemales.ca > septembereleventh.org > skolnicksreport.com > standdown.net > stanley2002.org > > team8plus.org > tomflocco.com > thepowerhour.com > thetruthseeker.co.uk > truefacts.co.uk > truthout.org > tvnewslies.org > > unansweredquestions.org > uruknet.info > > vialls.net > > votetoimpeach.org > > wanttoknow.info > whatreallyhappened.com > wingtv.net > worldaffairsbrief.com > > xymphora.blogspot > > 911citizenswatch.org > 911forthetruth.com > 911truth.org > 911truthradio.com > > > The CIA Fakes presented by BreakForNews.com > PsyOpNews.com and Wagnews.Blogspot.com > > Note: We do not contend that everyone associated with these websites > are knowing intelligence operatives. Some have been professionally > manipulated, others merely misled. In any event these are promoting > the psyop agendas and disinformation themes of the covert > controllers. This is also not meant to be a fully comprehensive > listing of all the fake websites. > > > For the last three years we have been quietly investigating the > cover-up of the 9/11 attacks. Ours has been a wide-ranging inquiry > which paid special attention to those who claim to be already > exposing the truth. > > During this time we have interviewed many people with alternative > views on who were the real perpetrators. All the while, we kept our > own counsel. Much of the time we played it as if we were > uncritically buying the lines being put out on various alternative > media. > > We have examined a great deal of evidence and methodically traced > the methods and networks used to mislead us all. Now we present the > first of our findings. > > NO ROGUE GROUP > > We published our first investigative articles on the 9/11 attacks -- > just 7 and 14 days after the event. We knew, as did many others, > that the real planners were not 'Al-Qaida'. That's the easy part. > The challenge was to actually determine -rather than merely guess: > who did carry out the attacks? > > In uncovering those perpetrators, we felt that an investigation of > the cover-up would be as much --if not more-- revealing than our > examination of the attacks themselves. > > Our analysis of the cover-up shows it requires, and has used, the > official intelligence resources of more that one state. One of the > ways of deflecting investigators from this grim reality has been to > spin the facts to allege that a 'rogue group' within government > carried out the attacks. > > But we now state that the depth and multinational scope of the cover- > up shows no mere rogue group was involved. The 9/11 attacks and > cover-up have covert governmental support -deployed through an > intelligence framework. > > What will be the most startling aspect of our investigation for many > people is the vast scale of governmental control of the 9/11 > movement and alternative investigators and media. From websites to > commentators; from analysts to political personages, this has given > the cover-up team unprecedented control of alternative media > perceptions. > > In short, the government is running not only the 9/11 movement, but > also controlling the 9/11 issue in the alternative media. It was > relatively easy to do so, because they have controlled both > mainstream and alternative media and politics increasingly over the > last twenty years. This was just an extension of those operations. > > > THE INTERNET POLICE > > Here's a quote from a recent article on the UK Guardian: > "The Chinese government, employs an estimated 30,000 internet > police, as part of a long-standing policy to control the web so that > it can be used by businesses but not by political opponents." > [Source] > > Think the ideology and practice of the USA would be any different? > Of course not. Just well cloaked under a veneer of free expression. > > In the US, it's less a case of internet 'police' and more a question > of Internet fake opposition, misdirection websites, front > organizations, pseudo-activist groups and a host of professional > blogging and web journalism liars, acting in concert to create an > impenetrable fog. > > These people are all over the Internet They are all over the 9/11 > issue; all over the 'stolen' election of 2004; behind the > psychological operations designed to inspire fear of earth changes, > of global warming, of the Super-State and the so-called New World > Order; all over the landscape of anti-corporate, antifascist > expression on the Internet. > > This army of information controllers is all over the 'free' > information you are getting on the Internet. Time we opened our eyes > to see them. It's not just the mainstream which is controlled. From > the moment the Internet became prominent, a vast budget has been > expended to control all the high-trafficked intersections on the > information superhighway. > > > THE FAKE 'EXPOSING' OF 9/11 > > Many of these sites/assets were put in place long before 9/11. A key > goal was to ensure that if some truth must come out, it will be a > truth designed and controlled by intelligence agencies --with agency > assets in a position to ensure misdirection and damage limitation. > > To this end, an orgy of evidence [See Minority Report Part I] in the > form of deliberately misleading 9/11 'clues', were designed into the > 9/11 operation from the start --to give these assets prearranged > talking points with which to fill their column inches and > programming. This has served to confuse and confound. > > All this activity rose to a crescendo around the time the Kerry > presidential bid hit it's planned implosion in the 'stolen' > election. [The stealing of which was carefully managed in the > controlled alternative media as a psychological operation against > the left.] > > The hyping of the 9/11 issue up until the 'defeat' of Kerry was > designed to max out activist interest in the issue, then bury it > with the aid of general post-Kerry, left-wing political disillusion - > against the backdrop of division in the 9/11 Movement itself. > > Also part of a similar confounding exercise were the subsequent 9/11 > Movement 'flame wars', as different assets attacked each other to > undermine their collective credibility and disillusion ordinary > grassroots 9/11 truth activists. > > > THE SMOKESCREEN > > A persistent theme of the disinformation spread by these assets is > to portray the machinations of this elite group acting through the > CIA/NSA/ETC. as if they originate from somewhere other than the US > security/intelligence apparatus. > > Suspicion is directed instead onto the Israelis, the 'City of > London', 'International Bankers', The Rockefellers, The > Bildebergers, and most infamously, the ill-defined, so-called New > World Order. Of course, some of these elements are complicit in > certain events, but the aim is to downplay the U.S. establishment's > guiding hand and the broad CFR/corporate support. > > Some may be surprised by the range and scope of the misinformation > sites we have detailed, and may even be disconsolate to see the > sheer scale of the social and political control which their > virtually unlimited budget can achieve. > > All we can say is.... deal with it. We had to. It's better than us > all flailing around in ignorance. And it explains why men and women > of good heart have been getting nowhere. > > > THE MEDIA AS PSYOP > > This level of deception has been going on since the 1950's and > 1960's at an accelerating rate. Following the psywar against > civilians induced by the nuclear arms race 'crisis,' the subsequent > JFK killing was indeed an assassination, but it was also at heart an > extension of these 1950's nuke-scare psychological operations. > > The killing of Kennedy was not necessary for political reasons -but > it was a powerful tool for social control via psychological warfare. > Kennedy was killed to deliberately drive the US population into a > grief state which would hamper the development of political > opposition. > > This type of PsyOps directed at the civilian population was, and > still is the modus operandi. By now, it has produced a range of > operations as varied as AIDS, SARS, 9/11 and the G8/Live8 London > bombing. > > > SUMMARY > > Given the number of assets deployed in support of the 9/11 > operation, and the operational requirements of the 9/11 attacks > themselves, their origin is now clear. 9/11 was not carried out by > some 'rogue group,' nor was it a fully official US Government- > sanctioned operation. > > But it was orchestrated by the highest levels of the US Military and > military-industrial complex; on behalf of the national and > international politicians, corporates, and moneyed interests. It > had, and still has the full support of the US Military/intelligence > apparatus -who control much of the alternative media and the 9/11 > movement. > > More: Audio Show on this theme soon on BreakForNews.com > > Also: Part 1: 9/11 Minority Report 'An Orgy Of Evidence' > Why the 9/11 Movement was created and fostered > by the very people who carried out the attacks... > > > > > > > > Complete archives at http://www.sitbot.net/ > > Please let us stay on topic and be civil. > > OM > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 267.7.7 - Release Date: 16/06/05 > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> <font face=arial size=-1><a href="http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12hocvgcd/M=362329.6886306.7839369.3040540/D=groups/S=1705372463:TM/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1123844110/A=2894321/R=0/SIG=11dvsfulr/*http://youthnoise.com/page.php?page_id=1992 ">Fair play? 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