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Subject:     Crimson faced Bilk runs away to cry - again.
Date:     Fri, 10 Mar 2006 04:56:58 +1100
From:     Gerard Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


For the umpteenth time, Crimson faced Bilk has fled to his hangar to cry big
red tears on to his plane shaped pillow and hug his little Boeing for
consolation.

Which gives us a chance to sum up the latest thrashing by looking at videos
of what happens when planes hit things.

Here's a video of what happens to wings on a C 130 - during a successful
landing mind you. So it's traveling quite slowly compared to the mythical
WTC plane, and actually lands as planned. The only thing it does wrong is
that it tries to pull up too quickly. This causes it to skew to the side a
bit, the fuselage lurches, rolls a bit, one of the wing tips touches the
ground and snap !
 
  http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm#TEST%20FLIGHTS 

Play the video entitled

C-130 SuperSTOL Test Gone Bad -- An example of what not to do when trying to
stop short.


And as for the tail. You know -the tail which stayed beautifully intact to
smash clean through the building - even after the entire fuselage had
destroyed itself against the core? We have a fuselage which effectively no
longer exists, and hasn't for quite some time, but somehow, the tail is
still attached to it and has no trouble bursting through a wall.


Normally a tail is attached to a sleekly engineered construction of
continuous metal. In the planehuggers imaginary scenario, it is now attached
to something which is distorted and crushed into a wildly variable zig zag
shape - that's what happens when approximately straight metal things get
squashed.

 >From the link above, here's another video of a hard landing. A successful
landing. It's just too hard. The tail breaks off.

Play the video called

"Hard Landing! -- Ever seen an airliner land so hard that the tail breaks
off? You have now! (This was an early DC-9/MD-80 certification test. After
this demonstration they beefed up the tail section -- for obvious reasons!)"


As you will note, they strengthened the tail section after this test, but
considering that they had previously considered it to be close enough that
it was worth testing, it doesn't take much to work out that real aircraft
tails are not built to stand up to the stress of having the entire fuselage
destroyed - with sufficient strength still in reserve to barge their way
through a building.

How about this 737 accident?

  http://www.b737.org.uk/accident_reports.htm 

25 May 1982; PP-SMY, 737-200 Adv, 20970/376, Del 4/10/74, VASP; Brasilia,
Brazil:


"The aircraft landed heavily in a rainstorm and broke in two. "

 Not crashed. "Landed heavily."

How about the recent crash of a C130 into a building in Tehran ? You can see
one wing of the plane lying at the foot of the building.

If the C130 video isn't enough...how strong are plane wings built?

The required engineering standard is that

"After completing "limit load" tests (ie the maximum loads likely to be
experienced by the aircraft during normal service), progressively greater
loads have been applied to the specimen towards the required 1.5 times the
limit load."

 
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Lets review. The fuselage is being squashed, crumpled , like a tin can being
trodden on, like an accordion being squeezed. But the wings stay attached.
Even though the thing that they are attached to effectively doesn't exist
any more in any organized form. Destroying the fuselage that the wings are
attached to is apparently within the 1.5 times the load of the wings
experience during "normal service".

Since wings roots are attached horizontally to the fuselage which is being
crushed, then I really like the idea of the wings retaining their structural
integrity when the attachment points turn into a zig zag pattern.

But it gets better. The stress being experienced must be a *long way* inside
the maximum allowable stress limits. It fact this would have to represent
almost negligible load, because despite the newly aquired zig zag shape of
the wing roots, there's still enough headroom left in the wings capacity for
stress that they can now start sawing through steel columns which are used
for helping to hold up the world's largest building - and still be within
1.5 times the stress limits experienced by wings during "normal service" -
remember that aircraft are built such that it's considered OK for them to
break above that level.

And considering the dimensions of the core, the plane would start smashing
itself against the core, when the wing roots are still at least 15 ft
outside the building.

The tail is also engineered to withstand 1.5 times normal operating load. So
I really like the way that after the fuselage has destroyed itself against
the core, it's still firmly enough attached to barge its way through a
building.

In times to come, assuming the hopeful scenario that the world somehow
survives what's going on, and eventually regains some sanity, this will be
known as the war of the cartoons, and our generation will be the laughing
stock of history.




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OM
 
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