Hi Volker:
I am still working on this issue and will be in touch as soon as I have an 
answer.

Regards,
Obaid Farooqi
Escalation Engineer | Microsoft
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Volker Lendecke [mailto:volker.lende...@sernet.de] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 9:48 AM
To: Obaid Farooqi
Cc: cifs-proto...@samba.org; p...@tridgell.net
Subject: Re: [REG:111052652308584] [ttal...@microsoft.com: RE: Reminder -- 
share secdesc and smb2 echo?]

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 06:54:20PM +0000, Obaid Farooqi wrote:
> Hi Volker:
> I will help you with this issue and will be in touch as soon as I have 
> an answer.

Any hints yet?

Thanks,

Volker

> 
> Regards,
> Obaid Farooqi
> Escalation Engineer | Microsoft
> 
> Exceeding your expectations is my highest priority.  If you would like 
> to provide feedback on your case you may contact my manager at 
> allis...@microsoft.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Volker Lendecke [mailto:volker.lende...@sernet.de]
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 3:30 AM
> To: Interoperability Documentation Help
> Cc: cifs-proto...@samba.org; p...@tridgell.net; Tom Talpey
> Subject: [ttal...@microsoft.com: RE: Reminder -- share secdesc and 
> smb2 echo?]
> 
> Hi, dochelp!
> 
> Attached find an explanation of the question I have.
> Summary: I need to know what exact effect the security descriptor attached to 
> a share (not the file system secdesc) has on the access decisions made via 
> SMB. Please find a detailed explanation further down in this forwarded mail.
> 
> Answering Tom's question: Yes, this is stock W2k8 (no R2). I have not done 
> this against SMB2 earlier with the same results. If required, I can reproduce 
> it to provide traces for SMB2 as well.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Volker
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from Tom Talpey <ttal...@microsoft.com> -----
> 
> Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 18:22:51 +0000
> From: Tom Talpey <ttal...@microsoft.com>
> To: "volker.lende...@sernet.de" <volker.lende...@sernet.de>
> CC: Jim Pinkerton <jp...@microsoft.com>, "j...@samba.org" 
> <j...@samba.org>
> Subject: RE: Reminder -- share secdesc and smb2 echo?
> 
> Volker, looking at these, I think it is significant enough that you should 
> ask via dochelp, and we'll get you an "official" answer. That also means we'd 
> have the channel to make an official doc change to describe the behavior if 
> that is indicated. Include these traces.
> 
> I assume this is a stock Windows 2008 install acting as the SMB server? Also, 
> have you tried with SMB2?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Volker Lendecke [mailto:volker.lende...@sernet.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:56 AM
> To: Tom Talpey
> Cc: Jim Pinkerton; j...@samba.org
> Subject: Re: Reminder -- share secdesc and smb2 echo?
> 
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 08:30:19PM +0000, Tom Talpey wrote:
> 
> > 3) On the share security descriptor, I want to avoid confusion so I 
> > wonder if you can repeat the repro steps we discussed at SambaXP.
> > IIRC, the case was that of a share security descriptor being set to 
> > deny write access, but owners were observed being denied for 
> > write-type operations to their own files within the share?
> 
> Ok. Lengthy trace (acls.cap). The relevant frames I want to point out are 
> 1229 and 4028. Both are responses to open a text file with WRITE_DAC access 
> mask. The first time it is denied, the second time it is allowed. The only 
> difference is not in the security descriptor of the file itself, but the 
> security descriptor on the share as such. I tried to open the file as the 
> owner, w2k8\vlendec. It should be visible from the respective session setups 
> before.
> 
> In between those frames, I logged in as Administrator and looked at the 
> secdesc of the share (frame 2511). There you can see in ACE 2 (rid -513) does 
> not contain the WRITE_DAC privilege. In frame 3434 I gave vlendec (rid -1108) 
> an explicit full control, including the WRITE_DAC. I believe this then led 
> frame 4028 to return success instead of NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED as in frame 
> 1229.
> 
> Unfortunately in the acls.cap I did not include proof that the text file is 
> actually owned by vlendec. You can see this in owner.cap, frame 736.
> 
> What I want to know is the exact mechanism leading to ACCESS_DENIED in 1229. 
> Is this only for implicit WRITE_DAC, or are other flags affected with the 
> same mechanism?
> 
> Hope that makes it clear.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Volker
> 
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