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Hi Alexander,

Thanks for reaching out with your Kerberos/Netlogon question. I've created case 
2508140040006509 to track the issue. One of our engineers will investigate this 
and contact you soon.

Regards,
Kristian Smith
Support Escalation Engineer | Microsoft(r) Corporation
Email: [email protected]

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Bokovoy <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2025 5:41 AM
To: Interoperability Documentation Help <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Network Ticket Logon clarification

Hello Dochelp,

I am reading through MS-KILE v45 update that was published this week
(v20250811) and trying to understand how would KDC receive the request which 
processing is described in the section [MS-KILE] 3.3.5.8 Network Ticket Logon.

As referenced in [MS-KILE] 3.3.5.8, [MS-NRPC] 3.2.4.2 describes the process on 
the Netlogon side, namely:

--------------------------------------
Broadly, there are five major steps in the network ticket logon process:

  - The Kerberos client prepares and makes a request (see [MS-APDS] sections 
3.2.5.1 and 3.2.5.2)

  - Netlogon delivers the request (see section 3.2.4.2.1)

  - The Key Distribution Center (KDC) processes the request and sends a reply 
(see [MS-KILE] section 3.3.5.8.1)

  - Netlogon processes the reply and sends it to the client (see section 
3.2.4.2.2)

  - The Kerberos client receives the reply (see [MS-APDS] section 3.2.5.4)
-------------------------------------

My question is related to the steps 'Netlogon delivers the request' and 'KDC 
processes the requests and sends a reply'. Unfortunately, neither [MS-NRPC]
3.2.4.2.1 nor [MS-KILE] 3.3.5.8.1 clarify how exactly Netlogon and KDC 
communicate the request between each other.

Could you please clarify it?

Is it a specially formatted TGS-REQ? Or is it some special form of a 
back-channel between these components?

--
/ Alexander Bokovoy

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