Hi Jennifer,
I'm reaching out to see if you had any additional questions
regarding this error you received. You likely saw that Julien
provided some valuable information on August 28th. The following
document section discusses the inclusion of PAChecksum2 along with
the expected OID's discussed in my prior email.
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MS-PKCA 2.2.3 PA-PK-AS-REQ
PKAuthenticator in [RFC4556] is extended to add the following
PAChecksum2. If SHA-1 is disabled as a checksum algorithm
PAChecksum2 SHOULD be present; if this field is present, it will
always be validated even if it is SHA-1.<11>
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PKAuthenticator in PA-PK-AS-REQ applies to Windows Server 2022,
23H2 operating system.and later versions. Windows Server 2022,
23H2 and later DCs will send
back TD-CMS-DIGEST-ALGORITHMS-DATA as described in [RFC8636]
section 4, CMS Digest Algorithm Agility.
On supported versions of Windows, PAChecksum2 is validated if any
one of the following conditions is
true:
1. The field is present
2. If an EC algorithm is not allowed and the
signedAuthPack algorithm is not SHA-1
3. SHA-1 is disabled
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Please let me know if you still have any blocking issues or
concerns with accuracy of the open specs. If I don't hear back
from you by Wednesday, I'll assume that you were able to resolve
the issue and I'll archive the case.
Regards,
Kristian Smith
Support Escalation Engineer | Microsoft® Corporation
Email: [email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: Kristian Smith
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2025 7:15 AM
To: 'Jennifer Sutton' <[email protected]>
Cc: Microsoft Support <[email protected]>; 'cifs-
[email protected]' <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [MS-KILE] PK‐INIT and
KDC_ERR_DIGEST_IN_SIGNED_DATA_NOT_ACCEPTED -
TrackingID#2508220040003919
Hi Jennifer,
I inspected the trace you sent. It appears that when Windows
Server
2025 receives the AS ticket, it's expecting one of the following
algorithm identifiers:
sha512NoSign 2.16.840.1.101.3.4.2.3 sha384NoSign
2.16.840.1.101.3.4.2.2 sha256NoSign 2.16.840.1.101.3.4.2.1
sha1NoSign 1.3.14.3.2.26
but it received:
sha1RSA 1.2.840.113549.1.1.5
If you change the algorithm ID to 1.3.14.3.2.26, I believe it
should work. Please let me know if you have additional questions or concerns.
Regards,
Kristian Smith
Support Escalation Engineer | Microsoft® Corporation
Email: [email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: Kristian Smith
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2025 3:45 PM
To: Jennifer Sutton <[email protected]>
Cc: Microsoft Support <[email protected]>; cifs-
[email protected]
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL] [MS-KILE] PK‐INIT and
KDC_ERR_DIGEST_IN_SIGNED_DATA_NOT_ACCEPTED -
TrackingID#2508220040003919
Hi Jennifer,
Thanks for uploading the trace. I wanted to let you know that I'll
be out of the office until the 2nd of September, so I'll inspect
it when I return. If this is an urgently blocking issue, or you
have other questions, please reach out to [email protected] during my
absence.
Thanks for your patience.
Regards,
Kristian Smith
Support Escalation Engineer | Microsoft® Corporation
Email: [email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer Sutton <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2025 7:31 PM
To: Kristian Smith <[email protected]>
Cc: Microsoft Support <[email protected]>; cifs-
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [MS-KILE] PK‐INIT and
KDC_ERR_DIGEST_IN_SIGNED_DATA_NOT_ACCEPTED -
TrackingID#2508220040003919
Hi Kristian,
I’ve captured traces and uploaded them to the secure file share.
Cheers,
Jennifer (she/her)
On 27/08/25 5:17 am, Kristian Smith wrote:
Hi Jennifer,
Thanks for giving that a try. Here are the instructions for
gathering and uploading an Lsass trace:
Lsass Tracing
1. Download and run the TTD.appinstaller from our website using
the following link. Note: An End-User License Agreement (EULA)
will appear in a command window that you will need to approve.
a. Link:
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non-protected process and disable Shadow Stacks so that we can
run the trace. Run the following commands in an
administrator-elevated PowerShell instance, then restart the
machine. Warning: This should not be done on a machine exposed to the Internet.
a. Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:
\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa" -Name "RunAsPPL" -Value 0
b. reg add
"HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session
Manager\Kernel" /v "UserShadowStacksForceDisabled" /t REG_DWORD /d 1
/f 3. When ready to repro the issue, run the following commands
to create a destination folder and begin the trace. Run the
following commands in an elevated PowerShell instance.
a. mkdir C:\Traces_$(Get-Date -format "dd-MMM-yyyy")
b. TTD -Attach ([int](Get-Process -NAME lsass | Format-
Wide -Property
ID).formatEntryInfo.formatPropertyField.propertyValue)
-out C:\Traces_$(Get-Date -format "dd-MMM-yyyy")\lsass.run
c. When the small window pops up, the trace has begun
and you can now reproduce the issue. To end the trace, simply
click “Tracing Off”.
4. Once the trace operation is complete, we need to compress the
.run file created by TTD for easy transfer. Run the following
command in an elevated PowerShell instance.
a. Compress-Archive -Path C:\Traces_$(Get-Date -format
"dd-MMM-yyyy")\ -DestinationPath C:\Traces_$(Get-Date -format
"dd- MMM-yyyy").zip
b. Note: If this fails, you may need to restart the
traced process to unlock the trace for compression. Using the
following command, Lsass will restart automatically.
1. stop-process -name lsass -force 5. Now we
must undo the security changes made prior to taking the trace.
Run the following commands in an elevated PowerShell instance,
then restart the machine. After reboot, you are safe to reconnect
the computer to the Internet.
a. Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:
\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa" -Name "RunAsPPL" -Value 1
b. reg add
"HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session
Manager\Kernel" /v "UserShadowStacksForceDisabled" /t REG_DWORD /d 0
/f 6. Upload C:\Traces_dd-MMM-yyyy.zip to the secure file share
link below
a. Link: https://support.microsoft.com/files?
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Please let me know if you have any questions or issues with the
process outlined above. Thanks for your time.
Regards,
Kristian Smith
Support Escalation Engineer | Microsoft® Corporation
Email: [email protected]
-----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer Sutton <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2025 4:34 PM
To: Kristian Smith <[email protected]>
Cc: Microsoft Support <[email protected]>;
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [MS-KILE] PK‐INIT and
KDC_ERR_DIGEST_IN_SIGNED_DATA_NOT_ACCEPTED -
TrackingID#2508220040003919
Hi Kristian,
I enabled the two group policies and set all of the algorithms to
‘supported’, but I still get the same
KDC_ERR_DIGEST_IN_SIGNED_DATA_NOT_ACCEPTED error code.
Cheers,
Jennifer (she/her)
On 23/08/25 4:44 am, Kristian Smith wrote:
[Jeff to Bcc]
Hi Jennifer,
From the code, the most likely reason you’re seeing this
error is because Server 2025 is rejecting the chosen hashing algorithm.
Please visit the following link to see the security baseline
updates for Server
2025:
Windows Server 2025, security baseline | Microsoft Community Hub
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If you scroll down to “Configure hash algorithms for certificate
logon”, you’ll see what I think is applicable to this scenario.
There are 2 group policies that may help in testing:
Computer Configuration->Administrative
Templates->System->KDC->Configure hash algorithms for
Templates->System->KDC->certificate
logon
Computer Configuration->Administrative
Templates->System->Kerberos-
Configure hash algorithms for certificate logon
These should allow you to explicitly allow certain hashing algorithms.
If this does not work, let me know and I’ll send the
instructions to gather an LSASS trace to look a bit deeper into your scenario.
*Regards,*
*Kristian Smith*
Support Escalation Engineer | Microsoft® Corporation
*Email*: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
*From:*Jeff McCashland (He/him) <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2025 6:43 AM
*To:* Jennifer Sutton <[email protected]>;
[email protected]
*Cc:* Microsoft Support <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [EXTERNAL] [MS-KILE] PK‐INIT and
KDC_ERR_DIGEST_IN_SIGNED_DATA_NOT_ACCEPTED -
TrackingID#2508220040003919
Hi Jennifer,
Thank you for your question. We have created SR 2508220040003919
to track this issue. One of our engineers will respond soon to assist.
Best regards,*
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Engineer
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*From:* Jennifer Sutton <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Sent:* Thursday, August 21, 2025 10:10 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:cifs-
[email protected]> <[email protected]
<mailto:cifs- [email protected]>>; Interoperability
Documentation Help <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Subject:* [EXTERNAL] [MS-KILE] PK‐INIT and
KDC_ERR_DIGEST_IN_SIGNED_DATA_NOT_ACCEPTED
Hi dochelp,
I’m performing tests against Windows Server 2025 and finding
that PK‐INIT requests always receive the response
KDC_ERR_DIGEST_IN_SIGNED_DATA_NOT_ACCEPTED. The same requests
made to Windows Server 2019 succeed. Could you help me find out
why I’m getting this error?
Cheers,
Jennifer (she/her)