сб, 14 июн. 2025 г., 00:48 Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected]>:
> > > Den 13.06.2025 05:37, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: > > > > чт, 12 июн. 2025 г., 23:33 Terje J. Hanssen <[email protected]>: > >> >> >> Den 12.06.2025 19:01, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu: >> >> >> >> чт, 12 июн. 2025 г., 19:45 Terje J. Hanssen via Cin < >> [email protected]>: >> >>> I have made another working ffmpeg command line without "-target >>> pal-dv50" as seen below, and tried here to >>> make a video preset for CinGG , but got errors and have questions: >>> >>> A related example: >>> Is it a reason why Cingg preset for DVD doesn't use "-target pal-dvd" >>> that I have used with ffmpeg before? >>> >> >> I am not sure if this is 'composite' command line switch for ffmpeg as >> command line application or you can use it in our profiles. >> >> try and tell us now it works? >> >> >> Not sure I understood what you meant here. But I did base my FFmpeg >> command line on presets from WinFF, i.e for "PAL DVD HQ Fullscreen": >> -f dvd -target pal-dvd -aspect 4:3 -vb 8000k -mbd rd -trellis 1 >> -flags +mv0 -cmp 0 -subcmp 2 >> >> As seen above, this WinFF preset make use of the related "-f dvd -target >> pal-dvd" >> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg05766.html >> >> In comparison Cingg's preset doesn't use ffmpeg's dvd target >> > > *I think* -target just set bunch of parameters at once. So not really > needed if you set them individually in preset. > > > >> cat dvd.dvd >> >> dvd mpeg2video >> s 720x480 >> r 30000/1001 >> pixel_format yuv420p >> g 18 >> maxrate 9000000 >> minrate 0 >> bufsize 1835008 >> packetsize 2048 >> cin_bitrate=8000000 >> >> -------------------------- >> >> dv50_pal.mov >> mov dvvideo >> # cin_pix_fmt=yuv422p >> # cin_scale=720x576 >> # r=50 >> >> there is >> >> ffmpeg/video/dv_pal.qt >> >> try it? >> >> >> Yeah, thanks for this tip which looks good, interesting and promising ;) >> >> I noticed also this preset, but didn't bench test it. Now, seemingly >> ".qt" tells me it means "quick-time" (not qt gui) >> >> cat dv_pal.qt >> >> mov dvvideo >> cin_pix_fmt=yuv420p >> field_order=bb >> # 720x576, 25 fps >> >> ---------- >> >> Applications/CinGG-20250430-x86_64.AppImage >> Cinelerra Infinity - built: Apr 30 2025 07:18:32 >> git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git >> >> ------- >> Shift P: >> FFMPEG qt >> >> Audio wrench: >> pcm_s16le >> Video wrench: >> dv_pal.qt >> yuv422p >> >> Video4Linux /dev/video0 >> 30 frames to record at a time (default, correct? should it be set to >> 50fps?) >> >> 720 x 576 >> 50.000 frame rate for recording >> >> r(ecording) >> Start record: >> >> DeviceV4L2Base::v4l2_open pixels="YUYV"; res="1920x1080 1600x1200 >> 1360x768 1280x1024 1280x960 1280x720 1024x768 800x600 720x576 720x480 >> 640x480" >> v4l2 s_fmt 720x576 YUYV >> DeviceV4L2Base::v4l2_open VIDIOC_S_STD: Inappropriate ioctl for device >> >> ----------- >> >> And interestingly, the short cam test with Sony TR2000 Hi8 PAL connected >> via the A/D converter, the result also looks promising :) >> >> --------- >> >> ffprobe -hide_banner Cgg_dv_pal+pcm.qt >> >> Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'Cgg_dv_pal+pcm.qt': >> Metadata: >> major_brand : qt >> minor_version : 512 >> compatible_brands: qt >> encoder : Lavf61.1.100 >> Duration: 00:00:11.06, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 116736 kb/s >> Stream #0:0[0x1]: Video: dvvideo (dv5p / 0x70357664), yuv422p(bottom >> first), 720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3], 57600 kb/s, 50 fps, 50 tbr, 12800 tbn >> (default) >> Metadata: >> handler_name : VideoHandler >> vendor_id : FFMP >> Stream #0:1[0x2]: Audio: pcm_s16le (sowt / 0x74776F73), 48000 Hz, >> stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s (default) >> Metadata: >> handler_name : SoundHandler >> vendor_id : [0][0][0][0] >> >> -------- >> > > A dv vs dv50 squiz: > > DV: yuv420(pal) - ca, 25Mbit/s (video) - 25 FPS > DV50; yuv422 - ca 50Mbit/s (video) - 25 FPS > > I have also read that DV50 may be interpreted as 2 DV streams in > parallell. > > > But what happened by selecting framerate 50 fps in CinGG, when > > ffprobe above say 57600 kb/s, 50 fps > > and mediainfo below say > > Overall bit rate : 117 Mb/s > Bit rate (video) : 24.4 Mb/s > Frame rate : 50.000 FPS > Original frame rate : 25.000 FPS > Scan type : Interlaced !!? > Scan type, store method : Separated fields (2 fields per > block) > > Is the latter Separated fields 2 interlaced fields each odd and even lines > that simulates a progressive 50 FPS video? > sorry, no idea here. Depend on your source and Project settings it probably still means interlaced, because we do not do auto-deinterlacing, or fields to frames conversion. Watch output file frame by frame, I think it will remain interlaced. > > > >> mediainfo Cgg_dv_pal+pcm.qt >> General >> Complete name : Cgg_dv_pal+pcm.qt >> Format : MPEG-4 >> Format profile : QuickTime >> Codec ID : qt 0000.02 (qt ) >> File size : 154 MiB >> Duration : 11 s 60 ms >> Overall bit rate mode : Constant >> Overall bit rate : 117 Mb/s >> Frame rate : 50.000 FPS >> Writing application : Lavf61.1.100 >> FileExtension_Invalid : braw mov mp4 m4v m4a m4b m4p >> m4r 3ga 3gpa 3gpp 3gp 3gpp2 3g2 k3g jpm jpx mqv ismv isma ismt f4a f4b f4v >> >> Video >> ID : 1 >> Format : DV >> Codec ID : dv5p >> Duration : 11 s 60 ms >> Bit rate mode : Constant >> Bit rate : 24.4 Mb/s >> Width : 720 pixels >> Height : 576 pixels >> Display aspect ratio : 4:3 >> Frame rate mode : Constant >> Frame rate : 50.000 FPS >> Original frame rate : 25.000 FPS >> Standard : PAL >> Color space : YUV >> Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2 >> Bit depth : 8 bits >> Scan type : Interlaced !!? >> Scan type, store method : Separated fields (2 fields per >> block) >> Scan order : Bottom Field First >> Compression mode : Lossy >> Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.179 >> Stream size : 32.2 MiB (21%) >> >> Audio >> ID : 2 >> Format : PCM >> Format settings : Little / Signed >> Codec ID : sowt >> Duration : 11 s 42 ms >> Bit rate mode : Constant >> Bit rate : 1 536 kb/s >> Channel(s) : 2 channels >> Channel layout : L R >> Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz >> Bit depth : 16 bits >> Stream size : 2.02 MiB (1%) >> Default : Yes >> Alternate group : 1 >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Shift P: >>> FFMPEG mov >>> >>> Audio wrench enabled first: Didn't find simple pcm_s16le and tried >>> dnxhr_pcm_s16.mov, but got mismatch and disabled it >>> Video wrench: dv50p.mov >>> >>> Video4Linux /dev/video0 >>> 50 frames to record at a time >>> 720 x 576 >>> 50.000 frame reate for recording >>> >>> r(ecording) >>> Start record: >>> >>> cin >>> Cinelerra Infinity - built: May 18 2025 05:16:59 >>> ........ >>> >>> DeviceV4L2Base::v4l2_open pixels="YUYV"; res="1920x1080 1600x1200 >>> 1360x768 1280x1024 1280x960 1280x720 1024x768 800x600 720x576 720x480 >>> 640x480" >>> v4l2 s_fmt 720x576 YUYV >>> DeviceV4L2Base::v4l2_open VIDIOC_S_STD: Inappropriate ioctl for device >>> int FFMPEG::init_encoder(const char*): >>> mismatch audio/video file format: /home/terje/Videos//DV50p_pal.mov >>> >>> DeviceV4L2Base::v4l2_open pixels="YUYV"; res="1920x1080 1600x1200 >>> 1360x768 1280x1024 1280x960 1280x720 1024x768 800x600 720x576 720x480 >>> 640x480" >>> v4l2 s_fmt 720x576 YUYV >>> DeviceV4L2Base::v4l2_open VIDIOC_S_STD: Inappropriate ioctl for device >>> [AVFormatContext @ 0x7f6aa81d0080] Requested output format >>> 'dv50p_pal.mov' is not known. >>> int FFMPEG::init_encoder(const char*): >>> failed: /home/terje/Videos//DV50p_pal.mov >>> >>> DeviceV4L2Base::v4l2_open pixels="YUYV"; res="1920x1080 1600x1200 >>> 1360x768 1280x1024 1280x960 1280x720 1024x768 800x600 720x576 720x480 >>> 640x480" >>> v4l2 s_fmt 720x576 YUYV >>> DeviceV4L2Base::v4l2_open VIDIOC_S_STD: Inappropriate ioctl for device >>> [AVFormatContext @ 0x7f6aa81ad0c0] Requested output format >>> 'dv50p_pal.mov' is not known. >>> int FFMPEG::init_encoder(const char*): >>> failed: /home/terje/Videos//DV50p_pal.mov >>> DeviceV4L2Base::v4l2_open pixels="YUYV"; res="1920x1080 1600x1200 >>> 1360x768 1280x1024 1280x960 1280x720 1024x768 800x600 720x576 720x480 >>> 640x480" >>> v4l2 s_fmt 720x576 YUYV >>> >>> -------------------- >>> >>> ffmpeg -hide_banner -f v4l2 -i /dev/video0 -f alsa -ch_layout stereo -i >>> hw:CARD=UHD,DEV=0 -c:v dvvideo -vf scale=720x576 -r 50 -c:a copy -t 10 -f >>> mov dv_r50+pcm.mov >>> >>> Input #0, video4linux2,v4l2, from '/dev/video0': >>> Duration: N/A, start: 538.465207, bitrate: 1990656 kb/s >>> Stream #0:0: Video: rawvideo (YUY2 / 0x32595559), yuyv422, 1920x1080, >>> 1990656 kb/s, 60 fps, 60 tbr, 1000k tbn >>> Input #1, alsa, from 'hw:CARD=UHD,DEV=0': >>> Duration: N/A, start: 1749738351.392999, bitrate: 1536 kb/s >>> Stream #1:0: Audio: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s >>> Stream mapping: >>> Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (rawvideo (native) -> dvvideo (native)) >>> Stream #1:0 -> #0:1 (copy) >>> Press [q] to stop, [?] for help >>> [dvvideo @ 0x7f2298705c80] Only top-left chroma location is supported in >>> DV, input value is: unspecified >>> ---- >>> frame= 476 fps= 50 q=-0.0 size= 135168KiB time=00:00:09.50 >>> bitrate=116553.7kbits/s dup=0 drop=94 speed= 1x [out#0/mov @ >>> 0x55b8598e3700] video:140625KiB audio:1875KiB subtitle:0KiB other >>> streams:0KiB global headers:0KiB muxing overhead: 0.026882% >>> >>> frame= 500 fps= 50 q=-0.0 Lsize= 142539KiB time=00:00:10.00 >>> bitrate=116767.6kbits/s dup=0 drop=98 speed=0.999x >>> >>> -------- >>> >>> du -sh dv* >>> 140M dv_50M+pcm.mov >>> 140M dv_r50_50M+pcm.mov >>> 140M dv_r50+pcm.mov >>> >>> ----- >>> >>> ffprobe -hide_banner dv_r50+pcm.mov >>> >>> Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'dv_r50+pcm.mov': >>> Metadata: >>> major_brand : qt >>> minor_version : 512 >>> compatible_brands: qt >>> encoder : Lavf61.7.100 >>> Duration: 00:00:10.00, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 116749 kb/s >>> Stream #0:0[0x1]: Video: dvvideo (dv5p / 0x70357664), >>> yuv422p(progressive), 720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3], 57600 kb/s, 50 fps, 50 >>> tbr, 12800 tbn (default) >>> Metadata: >>> handler_name : VideoHandler >>> vendor_id : FFMP >>> encoder : Lavc61.19.101 dvvideo >>> Stream #0:1[0x2]: Audio: pcm_s16le (sowt / 0x74776F73), 48000 Hz, >>> stereo, s16, 1536 kb/s (default) >>> Metadata: >>> handler_name : SoundHandler >>> vendor_id : [0][0][0][0 >>> >>> -------------- >>> >>> mediainfo dv_r50+pcm.mov >>> General >>> Complete name : dv_r50+pcm.mov >>> Format : MPEG-4 >>> Format profile : QuickTime >>> Codec ID : qt 0000.02 (qt ) >>> File size : 139 MiB >>> Duration : 10 s 2 ms >>> Overall bit rate mode : Constant >>> Overall bit rate : 117 Mb/s >>> Frame rate : 50.000 FPS >>> Writing application : Lavf61.7.100 >>> >>> Video >>> ID : 1 >>> Format : DV >>> Codec ID : dv5p >>> Duration : 10 s 0 ms >>> Bit rate mode : Constant >>> Bit rate : 24.4 Mb/s >>> Width : 720 pixels >>> Height : 576 pixels >>> Display aspect ratio : 4:3 >>> Frame rate mode : Constant >>> Frame rate : 50.000 FPS >>> Original frame rate : 25.000 FPS >>> Standard : PAL >>> Color space : YUV >>> Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2 >>> Bit depth : 8 bits >>> Scan type : Progressive >>> Original scan type : Interlaced >>> Original scan order : Bottom Field First >>> Compression mode : Lossy >>> Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.179 >>> Stream size : 29.1 MiB (21%) >>> Writing library : Lavc61.19.101 dvvideo >>> >>> Audio >>> ID : 2 >>> Format : PCM >>> Format settings : Little / Signed >>> Codec ID : sowt >>> Duration : 10 s 2 ms >>> Bit rate mode : Constant >>> Bit rate : 1 536 kb/s >>> Channel(s) : 2 channels >>> Channel layout : L R >>> Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz >>> Bit depth : 16 bits >>> Stream size : 1.83 MiB (1%) >>> Default : Yes >>> Alternate group : 1 >>> >>> -- >>> Cin mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin >>> >> >> >
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