Actually, if you are a customer, and want to measure your upstream
quality, pinging the router is not the right thing to do anyway... It
tests nothing except the direct next hop.

You should most likely have an integrated monitoring scheme:
- Ping the upstream router
- Ping some other devices which are upstream
- Run a DNS probe to 2-3 DNS servers
- Run an HTTP probe to 10-15 common web services

Then you can use the different metrics to see if something has changed
compared to the established baseline.
Without having a baseline, the absolute numbers mean nothing... 

Arie

-----Original Message-----
From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net
[mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Saku Ytti
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 14:31
To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] reliability of ping to router physical-, sub- or
loopback interface

On (2011-08-24 12:03 +0200), Benny Amorsen wrote:
 
> So please, router vendors, make ICMP ECHO fast and reliable.

I guess it could be nifty to offload this to NPU, and probably most
modern NPU like EZchip and trio could do it.

However it is unclear to me what are the benefits, ICMP does not provide
one-way delay measurements, for this you'd need to have IP SLA and
timestamping in hardware, this is seems much more useful goal to me.

If for NMS purpose you wish to measure customer experienced quality and
you don't care about one-way delay/jitter, you can already today 'loop'
packets in hardware via given destination router, by jumping between
VRF/VRF or VRF/global table. So NMS would send ping packet out, and
would receive it on another VLAN, router would hardware switch it
delivering realistic delay/jitter measurements.

--
  ++ytti
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