Maybe so but I "live" in a MAN where we have over 12,000 desktops. We have a hell of a lot more than 2 WINS servers (1 master of course) and it works just fine thank-you. Not going to get into a big NT design thread on a Cisco list but I suggested the lmhost thing as a test when the "automatic" stuff doesn't work. We do it all the time, restore the service and then trouble-shoot the problem. You mileage may vary. Good luck on your next lab. Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Holmes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, 31 May, 2000 22:25 Subject: Re: Off topic - login the Win NT domain from different subnet ... > A WINS server on each subnet??? Eh??? Try 2 WINS servers (1 primary, 1 > secondary) per 10,000 users. That is the recommended number. > > Bac - use the ip helper address on your router to forward the netbios > broadcasts. Look it up on the documentation CD or at the documentation page > on www.cisco.com. The syntax is simple, and it is in common practice > everywhere. Also read up on how MS clients perform Domain authentication, > netbios name registration/resolution, and netbios session establishment. > This is all available (including Network Monitor traces) on Microsoft > Technet. > > LMHOSTS files are fine for your lab, but they are absolutely outlawed in an > enterprise. Don't even bother... > > Dale Holmes > CCNA, MCSE, CNE, UNIX/C > CCIE lab, take 2 - 10/16/00 > > > >From: "Kevin Wigle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Kevin Wigle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Bac Nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Re: Off topic - login the Win NT domain from different subnet ... > >Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 21:09:25 -0400 > > > >In my lab, I have a DOS workstation running TCP/IP that is four hops away > >from the PDC and a Win95 station also running TCP/IP that is three hops > >away > >from the PDC. > > > >They can both login in fine. I am not using WINS. I am using a lmhosts > >file on both PCs. > > > >The routers are not configured for any ip-helpers. > > > >You say that you can ping via the netbios name but then say you're using a > >hsots file. The hosts file is not for netbios translation but "normal" DNS > >type name translation, the lmhosts file is used for netbios "pings" > >(translation). > > > >So maybe the ping works because of DNS if the DNS name is the same as the > >netbios name, or like you said, the hosts file would also get a ping to > >work > >if the DNS name is the same........... > > > >WINS requires a server on each subnet or a proxy. > > > >Try the lmhosts first, if that works then that may be all you need if it is > >a small network. But if addresses/names change then you have to maintain > >it > >manually. > > > >Getting WINS to work across the router is really the best way but it sounds > >like you'll have to do some studying first. Lmhosts will get it working > >now > >if speed is important. > > > >Kevin Wigle > >CCDA CCNA MCSE CBE CBI > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Bac Nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Wednesday, 31 May, 2000 18:39 > >Subject: Off topic - login the Win NT domain from different subnet ... > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have a question that might be "off topic" ... sorry if it offending > >you. > > > > > > Is it possible that win 98 can login in a NT-Domain from another subnet. > > > Here is the configuration: > > > > > > Client - W98 192.168.20.x > > > > > > router > > > > > > Server - PDC "SRV1" 192.168.10.5 > > > * The server was configured with WINS services and the Win 98 client > >was > > > setup to used the WINS from the PDC server. > > > > > > Ping is ok via the PDC server IP address and server name (NetBios name > >) > > > with the HOSTS file. > > > "Net use * \\srv1\D$" is ok > > > > > > But the client cant login in the domain. "Domainserver is > > > unavailible..." > > > > > > My questions is do I need to configure the router to forward the NetBios > > > request to locate the PDC ? If so how I configure the router to do that > >? > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Any comment or help would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > >___________________________________ > >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > ___________________________________ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
