>Chuck,
>
>You are not crazy. ;-) I have seen this with IOS 12.0, and it totally
>confounded me the first time I saw it. It seems to happen when the serial
>interfaces are configured and brought up BEFORE the cables are attached.
>Save your config, then power cycle the boxes.
>
>HTH,
>Pamela

Thank you!  It's always good for the community as a whole when a 
serial killer is identified.


>
>On Tue, 13 Jun 2000, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
>
>  > Now that it appears I can post again, let me try this again. Discovered the
>  > problem Saturday. Have not been able to ask for help.
>  >
>  > Got a good one for you all to ponder.
>  >
>  > I am in the process of reassembling my lab. Routers have been off 
>line for a
>  > couple of weeks. Friday I brought two back on line to test some
>  > configurations for someone. Discovered that I was unable to route.
>  >
>  > Here is what I know:
>  >
>  > Serial interfaces on both routers are up. I know this because:
>  >
>  > 1) Show CDP neighbor reveals the other router, both interfaces, 
>both routers
>  > 2) Debug serial interface and debug serial events shows 
>communication across
>  > the interfaces
>  > 3) Show interface reveals the interface is up and the protocol is up, both
>  > interfaces, both routers
>  > 4) On either router I can ping the directly connected interfaces of the
>  > other router
>  > 5) Oh, and IPX and AppleTalk routing work just fine. I see all networks for
>  > both protocols.
>  >
>  > I also know that the routing protocols are set up correctly. Honest, gang.
>  > I'm not sure how many more ways I can check an IGRP configuration with one
>  > network in it. Let alone EIGRP and BGP ( the lab configuration I was
>  > testing ) Besides, as I stated, I can ping the each router serial interface
>  > from the other router.
>  >
>  > I also found that one time, if I reloaded with an empty startup config, and
>  > configured from the setup, that I would have routing. Admittedly I have not
>  > done too many more experiments along this line.
>  >
>  > Oh,  one last thing. IP routing works fine and dandy across the ethernet
>  > interfaces. I.e if I plug both router  ethernets into the same hub, routing
>  > is great. Even the BGP processes establish neighbor relationships with the
>  > right information..
>  >
>  > Well, I'm frustrated as hell. And out of ideas. I have gone so far as to
>  > reload images into the routers. The only other thing that is a 
>wild guess is
>  > that two of the three routers were the recipients of new images via Cisco's
>  > Router Software Loader. But the other one was updated the old fashioned
>  > way - TFTP. Makes no sense to me that this would effect the ability of the
>  > IOS to see the serial ports. I suppose strange things have happened.
>  >
>  > I do find it rather incredible that every serial interface on every single
>  > one of my routers has failed at exactly the same time. And failed for IP
>  > only.
>  >
>  > Anyone have any ideas? Is there some secret command within IOS version 12.x
>  > that someone is keeping secret from me? I continue to search on 
>CCO, but CCO
>  > is hiding this secret well.
>  >
>  > Chuck
>  >
>  >
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