I agree. If I know I've got an hour, why not read the question twice, to make
sure it's asking what I first thought? Especially considering the phrasing of
some of the Cisco exams. No extra points for finishing in 15 minutes instead of
30... I personally prefer the exams where you can go back and review - that way
I can do a first run without double checking, and then go back and check the
questions at leisure. If I know I can't go back, I make myself reread the
question and answers a couple of times to make sure I'm reading it correctly.
I've never run out of time yet (although the Design beta was pushing it), but
I've certainly never finished in 20 minutes.
Probably a habit learned at school - for some of my school exams, you weren't
allowed to leave early - so you may as well use the time for something, and the
only real options are checking your work or doodling in the margins of the test
paper...
In real life, I'd prefer to work with somebody who checks their work and
considers alternatives, rather than racing through it as quickly as possible.
Unless, of course, it's a crisis situation, in which case I'm quite happy to
skip all the niceties and clean up the mess later!
JMcL
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Rik Guyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 30/06/2000 01:53:17
Please respond to Rik Guyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc: (bcc: JENNY MCLEOD/NSO/CSDA)
Subject: RE: OFF TOPIC - Questions on Tests And Shortstops
While you may be right, I have trained myself to take all the time I need.
Too many times I have been in a hurry and misread something and then
discovered the error the second read through. When I have ample time, I
like to take my time and make sure I have read everything carefully and
really understand what the question is asking. Sure, if I'm in a hurry, I
can't take the time to smell the roses, but I can't accurately answer any
question unless I understand exactly what the question is asking. We've all
taken tests that had questions that seemed really ambiguous and poorly
worded. After all, these tests not only test your knowledge of the content,
but how good you are at taking tests. I'm 11 for 11 (haven't failed one
yet, knock on wood) and going for number 12 next week. I have not run out
of time yet either, but I'm grateful for the generous time allowance.
Rik Guyler
Principal Consultant
Cardinal Solutions Group
-----Original Message-----
From: Dale Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 10:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC - Questions on Tests And Shortstops
Preach Brad, preach! Ain't it the truth though... You either know it, or you
don't. I have always felt that they give you plenty of time for the tests...
My 8 Novell tests, for CNA, and then CNE (back when the CNA exam did NOT
count toward CNE), never took more than 11 minutes. Passed them all first
try. Of course, those were adaptive tests, designed to finish quickly.
But I had the same experience with the MCSE exams... all but one took less
than half an hour to finish. Passed them all first try. The one that went
long was the NT 3.51 version of the TCP/IP test - anybody who's seen that
exam will remember it. Long and tedious, but passable. Too bad they really
watered it down for NT 4.0...
CCNA? 22 minutes (passed first try).
CCIE written? Took the beta in about 35 minutes (passed).
I am not saying all this to pat myself on the back - I am just an average
guy. Anybody could do it, if they just do two things:
1. Learn the material
2. Don't watch the clock
It's that simple... Well OK, item number one can be difficult at times![=`)
I'll crawl back under my rock now... still looking for a decent job in
Baltimore...
Bye for now.
Dale
[=`)
>From: "Brad Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Brad Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: OFF TOPIC - Questions on Tests And Shortstops
>Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:54:01 -0400
>
>Chuck,
>
>There's always toooo much time given for tests...let's see, finished CCIE
>R&S written in 15 minutes, finished CCIE ISP written in 25 minutes...
>
>if you're talking about the CCIE lab, that's another story!!! (Although I
>did finish day 1 of the r&s with 2 hours to spare) the first time I took
>the r&s lab, I ran out of time...so go figure.
>
>It usually comes down to: either you know your stuff, or ya dont!
>
>-Brad
>
>
>""Chuck Larrieu"" < wrote in message
>006101bfe137$c26df460$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:006101bfe137$c26df460$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In major league baseball, the distance between bases is 90 feet. Just
>enough
> > that on a slow roller to shortstop, there is the chance the runner will
>make
> > it safely if he hustles, and there is a challenge to the shortstop to
>make
> > the play correctly to throw the runner out.
> >
> > For those who have taken any number of these certification tests now,
> > whaddaya think? Enough questions and little enough time that there is
> > something of a challenge?
> >
> > The only test where I was still hustling at the end was the DCN/CCDA
>test,
> > in which I used every last second. All the others I finished with 5-10
> > minutes to spare. On one or two of the betas I had ample time left when
>I
> > hung it up. My overall impression after seven of these things is that
>there
> > is plenty of time if you aren't spending your time counting on your
>fingers
> > figuring out subnet masks and number of hosts per network. 60 seconds
>per
> > question is, on the average, a lot of time. Many of the questions really
> > should take no more than 10 seconds a pop, leaving lots of leeway for
> > thinking through the complex questions or case studies.
> >
> > Anyone else think there is too much time? Too little? Not enough
>questions?
> > Too many?
> >
> > Chuck
> > Back to X.25, ATM, and SNA - CID/CCDP test Friday :->
> >
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