At a router command line, type "show frame pvc".  Look at the stats for In
DE Pkts and Dropped Packets for the PVC in question.  This will show you the
number of packets that crossed that PVC while over your CIR, and also the
actual number of packets dropped.

It's probably best to clear your counters first and then wait a day or so to
get a more accurate indication of what is currently happening on that
circuit.

HTH,

John Neiberger

>  How do you justify increasing CIRs? My manager wants to know if I
am/AT&T's 
>  network is dropping packets on the PVC. We exceed the CIR of 16k for up
to 
>  90k sometimes - but my manager doesn't see a problem with this since no
one 
>  at AT&T can confirm 100% that we are dropping packets when we see
congestion 
>  on the PVC.
>  
>  How do you convince management that running at 90k on a 16k CIR for days 
>  means that the CIR needs to be upgraded?
>  
>  Please help!
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