May be I had advanced access to the new NA material then ;-)  In my view, a
NA should be able to handle basic RIP, OSPF, EIGRP in a small to medium
sized network.  That would certainly include CIDR.  A NP, IMO, would be for
advanced RIP, OSPF, EIGRP, and basic BGP, like for configuring a mid-large
sized network for connection to the Internet including minimal BGP.  IE,
IMO, is for ISP engineers that have to deal with extensive IS-IS, BGP using
all options, etc, and large to huge (global) networks.

May be I'm just expecting too much, but if you don't understand CIDR you
shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a router, let alone be responsible for
configuring them.

Fred Reimer - CCNA


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-----Original Message-----
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]

Reimer, Fred wrote:
> 
> No offense, but this is CCNA material. 

Do they still teach classful for CCNA, though? Perhaps the only thing that's
hard for him is that 192.168.24.0 has a mask of 255.255.255.0 in a classful
system. Moving the prefix over to the left of that classful boundary isn't
something they teach for CCNA yet. (They will soon. The new Networking
Academy books teach it from the start now.)

Priscilla

> If you are going for
> your CCNP, then
> you should already have your CCNA and know the answer.  But
> anyway...
> 
> If you need a network with 400 hosts, the smallest subnet would
> have a /23
> mask.  So take the first part of your given network and assign
> it to that:
> 
> 192.168.24.0/23 (192.168.24.0-192.168.25.255)
> 
> Then you need one with 200 hosts.  Well, that could fit within
> a /24 subnet,
> so assign the next available to that:
> 
> 192.168.26.0/24 (192.168.26.0-192.168.26.255)
> 
> Now you only have 192.168.27.0/24 left from the original
> 192.168.24.0/23
> (which covered 192.168.24.0-192.168.27.255).  You need two
> 50's, so that
> should fit within /26 subnets each.  Assign them:
> 
> 192.168.27.0/26 (192.168.27.0-192.168.27.63)
> 192.168.27.64/26 (192.168.27.64-192.168.27.191)
> 
> Finally, you need three subnets that can have two hosts each,
> which would
> fit within /30 subnets.  So assign:
> 
> 192.168.27.192/30
> 192.168.27.196/30
> 192.168.27.200/30
> 
> 
> Fred Reimer - CCNA
> 
> 
> Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA
> 30338
> Phone: 404-847-5177  Cell: 770-490-3071  Pager: 888-260-2050
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Aiello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:02 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Please Help - CIDR - How the bits work [7:75050]
> 
> I just started my routing class for my CCNP.  We are covering
> CIDR.  The
> book is VEEEEEERY vague on how the bit patterns break down and
> are used.
> 
> 
> This was a problem posed in one of my CCNP labs
> 
> I have network number
> 
> 192.168.24.0 / 22
> 
> from this I need
> networks with
> 
> 400 hosts
> 200 hosts
> 50  hosts
> 50  hosts
> 2   hosts (for serial int - no ip un-numbered allowed )
> 2   hosts
> 2   hosts
> 
> Also no NATing
> 
> Thanks all I really could use the help
> 
> Steve
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