I am actually trying to prevent problems from occuring... I had a situation
that was work related that has caused me to rethink the need to make sure
that broadcasts are kept in check.  I had a localdirector connected to a
switch and I had two of the localdirector ports connected to the same vlan
due to a misread on the design.  Now I had 4 localdirectors setup this way,
each generated approximately 40 MBits/sec of ARP requests.  This actually
managed to take down the MSFC on the 6509 that was trunked to my 3548.  It
was actually fairly interesting, and I have learned quite a bit as a result
of this, but I am actually trying to lab a similar setup and properly filter
broadcasts to keep this from happening again...  I guess in effect I have
answered my own question... I need to determine the most appropriate number
of broadcasts based on my network.

Just a tip for those of you who get to play with localdirectors... I wouldnt
recommend hooking up two inside ports on the same vlan, unless you like arp
storms.

-- Kevin


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Howard C. Berkowitz
> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 4:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Port storm-control
>
>
> "Kevin Welch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>
> A broadcast frame takes up the same bandwidth as any other frame of
> the same length.  The urban legend that "broadcasts consume
> bandwidth" really refers to broadcast storms, so you are looking at
> the correct problem.
>
> A NetBEUI host that sends seven name resolution broadcasts when one
> would do is taking up the bandwidth that would be associated with
> seven more rational hosts.
>
> The more common effect of broadcasts is that they impact the CPU of
> all hosts that hear them.  CID has some old figures showing the
> effect of 10 Mbps broadcasts on a Sparc 2 host.
>
>      100 per second      3% CPU
>     1000 per second     25% CPU
>     3800 per second     Host OS crashed
>
> >I am playing around with a switch and looking at the storm-control
> >feature.  I cannot seem to find any reference on what good values
> >are for thresholds to indicate a broadcast storm.  I am currently
> >using 200 broadcasts per second and I think thats about right, but I
> >would like to know what the rest of you think.
> >
>
> The more hosts in a broadcast domain, the greater the effect of a
> broadcast storm can be.  Remember that a storm on one host can
> trigger storms on others.  Without a huge amount of science behind
> it, I use about 500 per second as a basic value, but 200 is certainly
> within reason.
>
> Setting it too low, if you have something like NetBEUI, can interfere
> with operations.
>
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