Hi..

Well, I must say I am confused now...The only reason what I could think of
that setup depends on the configuration in the router. If in the router,
you want to retain the VLAN information then probably we endup with the 3
line setup. Group, clarify this doubt.

Regds


--- Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe I am slow this Friday morning, but I still do not see the light.
> 
> If we forget about them being three VLAN's on one switch, let's instead
> say
> they are three LAN's - one on each switch. You would now connect those
> three
> switches to the router with a cable per switch - thus using three
> cables. On
> the other side of the router we only had one VLAN, so we just forget
> about
> the VLAN and make it a LAN which then only need one switch, and thus
> only
> one cable to the router.
> 
> What we have now is four switches - each in a separate LAN, that are
> interconnected via the router.
> 
> If we say that the three LAN's are in building A and the fourth LAN are
> in
> building B, and the router we could place in the parking garage. We
> would
> now need three cables from the router to building A and one cable from
> the
> router to building B. 
> 
> So far, so good.
> 
> It would make sense to connect the first three switches to each other
> and
> separate the LAN's by making VLAN's instead (we are now getting back to
> the
> original plot). The switch in building B only has one LAN, so we would
> only
> need to make one VLAN over there.
> 
> Now, why should I suddenly have to run three cables instead of only one
> between the router and the switch in building B???
> 
> Thanks for your comments (and time) on this,
> 
> Ole
> 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dinesh B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:12 AM
> To: Ole Drews Jensen; 'Scott Nelson'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: BCMSN: Inter VLAN communication
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> In the first scenario, the book explains the setup without ISL being
> configured, and hence each one of the 3 VLANs need a separate link to
> communicate to VLAN60. Only when ISL is configured , your argument holds
> good.
> 
> Hope this clears your doubt.
> 
> Regds
> 
> 
> --- Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A little bit Scott, but the first scenario shows it without trunking:
> > 
> > (this should be viewed with a fixed font)
> > 
> >      [SWITCH]          [ROUTER]          [SWITCH]
> >      [vlan10]----------[      ]----------[vlan20]
> >      [vlan11]----------[      ]----------[      ]
> >      [vlan12]----------[      ]----------[      ]
> > 
> > This I believe is wrong, since it should only need one physical
> > connection
> > between the router and the second switch (to the right) - like this:
> > 
> >      [SWITCH]          [ROUTER]          [SWITCH]
> >      [vlan10]----------[      ]----------[vlan20]
> >      [vlan11]----------[      ]          [      ]
> >      [vlan12]----------[      ]          [      ]
> > 
> > The purpose of the router is to route from one network to another, and
> > if
> > you would send data from a workstation on vlan11 to a workstation on
> > vlan20,
> > it should go via the cable connected to the port on the first switch
> > that is
> > assigned to vlan11. In the router it would be routed to vlan20 which
> > should
> > only have one connection from that switch.
> > 
> > If you (or anyone else) disagree, please let me know why.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Ole
> > 
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >  Ole Drews Jensen
> >  Systems Network Manager
> >  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
> >  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 6:08 PM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: Re: BCMSN: Inter VLAN communication
> > 
> > 
> > > I have just started reading about devices on different VLAN's
> > communicating
> > > with eachother via a Router.
> > >
> > > The thing I find odd (page 190/191 in Karen Webb's book) is the
> > following:
> > >
> > > Three (3) VLAN's are configured on the first switch, and one (1)
> VLAN
> > is
> > > configured on the second switch.
> > 
> > On the first switch, there are 3 VLANs that are configured to go to 3
> > interfaces on the first router and on the 2nd switch, it could be
> using
> > ISL
> > or 802.1q trunking to a second router. You don't need 3 separate
> > interfaces
> > when you are doing trunking as long as the switch and the router can
> do
> > ISL
> > or 802.1q or whatever proprietary protocol you want to use for
> trunking,
> > both have to speak the same trunking language.
> > 
> > Does that clear it up a little?
> > 
> > Scott
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > The first switch has three physical connections to the router, which
> > makes
> > > sense, but the second switch has three physical connections to the
> > router
> > > too, which doesn't make sense (to me at least).
> > >
> > > The way I see it, is that a VLAN would be (in theory) similar to a
> > physical
> > > LAN, so if I change the three (3) VLAN's on one switch to three
> > switches
> > > with one VLAN each, I would have one physical connection from each
> > switch
> > to
> > > the router, and one physical connection from the second, or in this
> > case
> > the
> > > fourth switch to the router.
> > >
> > > I know that I will probably know the answer to this if I just finish
> > the
> > > chapter, but I hate not being sure about the information that the
> rest
> > of
> > > the information is related to.
> > >
> > > Can someone clarify that for me?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Ole
> > >
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