There is also the possiblity that the CCIE was testing you, to see how you
would handle one of your fellow workers spouting wrong information.

I have sometimes deliberately and incorrectly stated some wrong information
to find out exactly how much someone knew about something, and how they
would handle it to hear someone else give out incorrect information.

It 's like an experienced mechanic asking a new mechanic  "How often do you
change the flush the radiator in a 1969 Volkswagen Beetle?"  as a way of
determing what they know.

Just a thought!

Charles

P.S.  You don't:  the 1969 beetle does not have a radiator!


""Leigh Anne Chisholm"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> John/Sam
>
> I interviewed with an organization recently and completely blew one
question.  I was asked what in an SMTP header will help troubleshoot email
delivery problems.  Now I immediately start thinking about framing formats,
and I don't know the frame format of an SMTP header.  I panic.  I say I
don't know.
>
> I get home, I realize they weren't asking what field in a frame, but
rather what information in the header that you can see as plain as day that
gets tacked on to an email message.  I feel very silly...
>
> I emailed the hiring manager, and asked if this is what they were
referring to, and provided him with a few examples of when I've used the
SMTP header to troubleshoot delivery problems before.
>
> If I get the job, wonderful--they like my initiative following up.  If I
don't... oh well.  I've been thinking about changing careers, because there
are very few companies in my city that I would like to work for...
>
> John--what if the CCIE was trying to find out not just what technical
knowledge you had, but how you handled difficult situations where two people
who worked together thought differently about what was right.  Would you
defer to the CCIE just because they're a CCIE or would you take initiative
to find the correct answer?  Would you follow up?  Maybe... maybe not.  It's
hard to guess what's going on in the heads of interviewers.  I like to keep
a positive attitude and not think the worst.  I'd HATE to think a CCIE
wouldn't know simple network concepts.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Sam Adams
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:57 AM
> > To: 'John Barnes'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Help about a technical interview I had PLEASE!
> >
> >
> > John,
> >
> > Besides the technical questions, how was the chemistry between you and
the
> > interviewer?  I know I went through a recent interview and I left
> > wondering
> > if I wanted to work with the interviewer.  Needless to say, I
> > wasn't offered
> > a second interview.  Guess he felt the same.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > John Barnes
> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 3:09 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Help about a technical interview I had PLEASE!
> >
> >
> > I had technical with a CCIE interview yesterday, and
> > I'm not really sure were to go with this.
> >
> > He asked me a lot of pretty high level questions and
> > some not so high level, the problem is, I feel some of
> > the answers he wanted were wrong.  I'm going to post
> > the questions, the answers I gave, and the answers he
> > claimed to be correct.  If I'm wrong on these, I'd
> > like to know.  If I'm right, how would you deal with
> > this kind of thing?
> >
> > 1) What is the size of a token ring frame?
> > My answer: Token ring has a variable frame size.
> > His answer: 3 bytes..
> >
> > Isn't that the size of the Token frame?
> >
> > 2) What the MTU of a token ring frame?  (Isn't this
> > about the same question as #1?)
> > My answer: slightly larger that 16K (I couldn't
> > remember the exact number)
> > His answer: about 4470 bytes .
> >
> > Ahh... what?  He claimed I was thinking about
> > FDDI.grrrr  Ah. Who's thinking about what?
> >
> > 3) What is the decision making process involved when a
> > packet enters a router?  What three criteria are used
> > to make this decision?
> >        My answer:  It depends. Is this the first
> > packet with this destination to arrive at this router?
> >  What switching mode is the router configured for.
> >
> >        His answer:  Forget about that stuff. how does
> > it determine which route to use.
> >
> >        My answer:  longest match in the routing table
> >
> >        His answer:  What if multiple routes exist in
> > the table.
> >
> >        My answer:  It depends.
> >
> >        Ok...I'm gonna cut to the chase. The answer he
> > wanted was longest match, Administrative distance,
> > then metric.  Ahh.. I'm pretty sure is wrong.   The
> > router looks at AD and Metrics long before the packet
> > enters the router.  The router uses AD and metric to
> > populate the routing table, and then longest match
> > from the routing table to make the decision once the
> > packet actually enters the router.  Comparing AD and
> > metric on every known route every time would place
> > unnecessary burden on the CPU.  Compare it once, make
> > the decision, and enter it in the RIT.  Even in the
> > case of IGRP/EIGRP with variance, the next eligible
> > route is determined before the packet enters the
> > router.
> >
> >       Maybe I should have picked up on this stuff when
> > the recruiter asked me with BGP was a DV or LS based
> > routing protocol.  My answer. ahh.neither, it's path
> > vector.
> >
> > I'm basically sending this out to get thoughts, and
> > hopefully Howard, Priscilla or someone can tell me
> > wether I'm off technically or not.
> >
> >
> > THANKS!!!!!
> >
> > -john
> >
> >
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