What is the purpose of even reporting that? You must have too much free
time on your hands.
Clayton Price
""Cthulu, CCIE Candidate"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
8qidac$33t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8qidac$33t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> It's been reported to official channels. Let's just say that their
response
> was:
>
> "Ha ha! Hello! What do you think we have here?"
>
> More derisive laughter AT the individual apparently from France who
> originated the question (SITA). Then we exchanged some more jokes, and
that
> was it.
>
> Hope this satisfies everyone's curiosity on what the "official response"
> was.
>
> Flames to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Charles
>
>
>
> ""hal9001"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 009c01c024ce$2da1b850$0100a8c0@hal9000wksn1">news:009c01c024ce$2da1b850$0100a8c0@hal9000wksn1...
> > Thought it was the Rainbow Series.
> >
> > Karl
> >
> > & Yes Who Are You?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ejay Hire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 2:05 PM
> > Subject: RE: US DOD. How do they do it?
> >
> >
> > > Doesn't the DOD publish it's security protocols in a manual... I think
> > they
> > > call it the Red book? Check out www.sans.org, www.antionline.com,
> > > www.2600.org/com
> > >
> > >
> > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > From: "Johns, Andrew M ETC (CNE N654)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Reply-To: "Johns, Andrew M ETC (CNE N654)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: RE: US DOD. How do they do it?
> > > Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 09:10:44 +0100
> > >
> > > What kind of name is that anyway?
> > > I do work for DOD and its not any real secret, our networks are
> > > internalized. We use NIPRNET SIPRNET. Nonclassified Internet Protocol
> > > Routed Network and Secret Internet Protocol Routed Network. (I could
> very
> > > well have some of the words wrong as I don't memorize it). Our
> connections
> > > are to the NOCC, Network Operations Control Center. One in UK One in
the
> > US
> > > (there are more but for simplicity...) The NOCC controls access of
> NIPRNET
> > > to the "outside". SIPRNET never goes outside. You can't get in. Course
> > > anyone who wants in bad enough will figure it out, but I'm sure they
> have
> > > the biggest and baddest firewalls around.
> > > Interestingly, there are some efforts underway (and some commands have
> > done
> > > it) to go on the economy for internet service since its very slow on
> > NIPRNET
> > > sometimes and we are charged from our budget for the bandwidth used.
> > > My disclaimer is that I don't know ALL the details, this is my
personal
> > > understanding of the BASIC operation. I don't know everything.
> > > I wrote this mostly for the group. Anything beyond this no one will
get
> > > access to.
> > > What kind of name is that anyway? I think I would be embarrassed to
use
> > > it....
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Cthulu, CCIE Candidate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 3:04 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: US DOD. How do they do it?
> > >
> > >
> > > May I suggest that in the future you take better steps to cover
> yourself?
> > > Do you really work at SITA-Societe Internationale de
Telecommunications
> > > Aeronautiques?
> > >
> > > Au revoir!
> > >
> > > Charles
> > >
> > >
> > > ""Cthulu, CCIE Candidate"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message
> > > 8qeduj$3ss$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8qeduj$3ss$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > You have got to be kidding! What defence organization is this
again?
> > > >
> > > > "Hi, I am friendly, please tell me your secrets! Also, can I have
> your
> > > > credit card number as I have never seen a Visa card before?"
> > > >
> > > > Those folks that work in, for, around, over, under, and about DoD
> > > networks
> > > > are sworn to protect it, even after they leave. Not only legally,
> but
> > > > morally and out of loyalty to their country.
> > > >
> > > > I am forwarding your email to some folks that I think may be
> interested
> > > in
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > Have a lovely day!
> > > >
> > > > Charles
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "wdwdawd wadwadad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > Are there any listers with knowledge of Defense
> > > > > networks out there. I am working with a defence type
> > > > > organisation (western world; not saddam!) and need
> > > > > info on how the US DOD use cisco in their services.
> > > > >
> > > > > For example do they rely on cisco's implementation of
> > > > > IPSEC for non classified traffic or do they just send
> > > > > in the clear on a private network.
> > > > > Do they utilise public networks.
> > > > > Do they utilise THE public network eg VPNS to remote
> > > > > sites?
> > > > > Do they outsouce portions of there network for
> > > > > "connectivity only" and implement their own controlled
> > > > > security at higher layers?
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess the minimum level of security for even
> > > > > non-class info would be 3des and classified would be
> > > > > sent on a completely seperate hardware (kgxxx)
> > > > > encryption based network.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do they utilise the catalyst range of switches and if
> > > > > so how do they maintain high levels of security at
> > > > > layer 2. What stops the cleaner plugging in his
> > > > > lappie, dhcp'ing an address and shoot'n some nukes?
> > > > >
> > > > > Are there any US DOD public web pages on how they use
> > > > > cisco technology?
> > > > >
> > > > > There are many examples of other types of organisation
> > > > > (not in the killing industry) that also have a
> > > > > requirement for TOP SECRET levels of network security.
> > > > > Are there any public web sites with examples of
> > > > > implementations?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > >
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