Hey group, I think we should all give Priscilla a hand on this response. That has got to be the best "design" related response I have seen on this list since I joined about a year ago. She truly did give the tops/downs of Network Design in this one. Beautiful work Priscilla...I applaud you, Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA, CCDA, 1/4-NP <A HREF="mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> "If you need luck, apparently you're not prepared...Go study!" ~Mark Zabludovsky~ In a message dated 10/24/00 8:55:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > At 01:55 AM 10/25/00, Mohammed Hakim wrote: > >Hi group, > > > >I have some questions .. or you can say many :) > > > >Q1) In order to be a good Network designer what Skills should you need > >..plus the "CCDA or CCIE Design" ? what are the responsibility he have? > > A designer should be logical, analytical, and able to spend lots of quiet > time thinking before implementing. (Some people aren't good at this! &;-) > He or she should be aware of the technical details of many different > solutions and be able to select the right solutions after figuring out what > problems need solving. > > Skills include analyzing business and technical requirements, > characterizing the performance of the existing network using network > management and protocol analysis tools, figuring out typical traffic flows > and loads (not easy on most networks!), developing a topological view of an > internetwork, designing addressing solutions that conserve addresses and > support summarization, selecting products for implementation, designing > wiring schemes, testing the implementation, etc. (See the Table of Contents > of my book for my opinion of what a designer should be able to do. &;-) > > > > >Q2) What are the type of job or you can say job names for a "CCDA or CCDP" > >other than Network designer ..!! > > Network architect and network engineer are often other names for network > designer. These are often the most senior-level people at companies. In > some companies the network architects have formal PhD-level training in > computer science, mathematics, queuing theory etc. This isn't always the > case, of course, but at large ISPs and many universities it's true. > > Usually a network architect has had many years experience in operations and > is well aware of configuration commands that will make the designs work. > > > > >Q3) For the CCIE Design tarck or exam, is true that you do not need to > >know "CLI" commands (ex: BCSN, MCNS .. have many IOS commands ..etc" > > It is not true. You need to know the commands for the lab part of the test. > > >If Yes .. is it true that a person how Pass CCNA, CCDA take the CID than > >jump to the CCIE Design tarck and pass it (write and Lab) can he have the > >CCDP "waved" or both the CCNP and the CCDP ? .. for the CCIE R/S I have > >red he can wave the CCNP and take the CID in order to have CCDP !!. > > To become a CCDP you have to take CCDA, CCNA, Routing exam, Switching exam, > Remote Access exam, and CID. To become CCIE you have to take a written test > and a 2-day excruciatingly difficult hands-on lab test. > > The CCIE exams are managed by a different department at Cisco than the > Career Certifications. Despite some Cisco marketing material, there really > isn't a stair-step relationship between Cisco Career Certifications and the > CCIE program. Most people prefer to take the other exams first to get some > practice, but it's not required. If you're a hot shot, it makes sense to go > for the CCIE level first, since that's the most respected. > > > > >Q4) Anyone who have a good drawing skills "have some good CAD skills > >ex:Autocad ver 9 to 2000 !! .." can this help him in his work or no need > >for it .. (as a Network Designer). > > It could help. Most of the network design tools support drawing packages > that are pretty simple though. Figuring out what to put on the drawing is > the hard part! > > > > >Q5) I am working on the CCDA right now, but I did not know why is the > >Deign track "CCDA, CID exam" is hard from the other support "CCNA, CCNP" > >.. !! is it the Case study stuff !! > >As I can see no commands is need in the CCDA (DCN Cisco book) is it the > >same with the CCDP and CCIE Design track .. But in the Lab exams there are > >some names for routers .. any one take the CCIE Desing Lab. > > > >Q6) About the CCIE world wide any categories for there numbers "ex: How > >many CCIE WAN, CCIE Design ..etc" I say about 35% to 40% are CCIE R/S .. > >only a guess .. > > > > I think most CCIEs are R/S. My guess is the number is more like 80 %. Only > a guess though. > > So that's my opinion anyway! I think it would be great if more people took > the design tests and if more employers expected the design certifications. > The idea that surfaces every so often that these tests are easier or less > technical is based on false assumptions. Which is easier, to operate a car > or to design a car? > > Priscilla > _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]