It may be bi-directional CIR, meaning 32kb one direction, 56kb the other. Many service providers offer this type of configuration. CIR is what he is guaranteed, anything above that might not be available. I'm not aware of any service providers that currently implement frame relay discard though. irwin -----Original Message----- From: Mike Emigh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 4:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CIR Hey everyone, I have a question about CIR. A friend received his bill, and the CIR is stated as 32kb-56kb. I don't understand why it would be a range, rather than a single value? CIR means that is what he is guaranteed, right? And his actual limit is the limit of the port speed, and anything beyond the CIR is eligible to be discarded, right? Could someone please clarify this for me? Thanks, Mike _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]