Hi Dave -

    I'm starting up a study group in the Boston area, and although we
haven't officially met yet, here's some ideas that we're looking at:

    First, our focus is on actual configuration on working routers, not just
on theory.  Therefore, every member is a router owner and brings it to each
meeting.  However, as a trainer I agree that the best way to learn something
is to be put in a position where you have to teach someone else.  So we'll
be using a whiteboard and teaching another whatever we know - where one has
a question, someone else will jump in and answer it.  But again, the focus
is centered around actual configuration, not just spending our Saturdays
whiteboarding a bunch of topics for one another.

    Our group is a CCNP/CCIE group, so all attendees have their CCNA
certifications already.  We're starting off with Doyle's book and going
through chapter-by-chapter, and from there we're not sure where we're going
to go.  Maybe Halabi and Thomas, or some other book for one of the other
CCNP exams.  We will be meeting every Saturday at 3 pm, and working until we
all collapse from exhaustion.  I'm not sure how much material we'll be able
to get through; maybe a good benchmark will be to stick to a topic until
everyone in the group is able to explain it to others in their own words.

    I'll keep you posted on how this format works out - like I said, we
haven't started meeting yet. :-)  If anyone else reading this message is
interested in joining the group, shoot me an email.

    Thanks,

    Bradley J. Wilson
    CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT


----- Original Message -----
From: Dave
To: Cisco Cert (E-mail)
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 6:35 PM
Subject: Study group format info wanted


Hi all,

I am interested in starting a study group at my company, and am interested
in how other existing study groups are formatted.  For instance, I know that
some groups read a chapter from a book, then meet to discuss that particular
chapter and ask each other questions.

An idea that I had was to come up with topics that were of interest to the
group, have a person volunteer to take a topic and become an expert on that
particular subject.  In the beginning there could be a large list of topics,
people would volunteer, and meetings would be scheduled to discuss a
particular topic on a particular night.  Topics could be added as necessary.
The subject expert would lecture (informally speaking) and during the
explanation of the subject questions could be asked by the group members.
If there were questions that could not be answered, the lecturer would write
them down and get back to the group at the next meeting.

My rationale is that you must really learn a subject if you have to explain
it clearly to others.  The person doing the explaining will have to really
understand what he is talking about, as well as be able to explain it to
others.  Sharing this load among the members of the group should help
everyone and, assuming everyone that lectures is clear and thorough, will
minimize the amount of time for the group as a whole to gain proficiency in
topics.

Are there any other groups doing this?  Are there other formats that
existing groups are using with success?  I welcome feedback on the format,
as well as any other suggestions to make efficient use of time.

Thanks,
Dave

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