Thanks.  I will check the book out.


Julian


""Chuck Larrieu"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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: I'm no place where I can check, but if memory serves, there is a decent
: discussion of this in Howard Berkowitz's book Designing Addressing
: Architectures.
:
: Chuck
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
: Julian Eccli
: Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 2:18 PM
: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
: Subject: Re: Definition of Control Plane
:
: Howard,
:
: Thanks for the reply.  I have heard the reference many times and when I
: searched
: the RFC's and came up with the ATM definition it did not seem to fit the
: context
: of how it was referenced in IP.
:
:
:
: Best Regards,
:
: Julian
:
: ""Howard C. Berkowitz"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
: news:p05001913b632114fb5be@[63.216.127.98]...
: : At 12:22 PM -0800 11/10/2000, Julian Eccli wrote:
: : >Does anyone know the definition of Control Plane from a generic
: : >routing protocol
: : >standpoint?  Is it the same definition as in ATM?  I have heard
: references to
: : >control planes in various talks but they were not specific to ATM.
: : >
: : >
: : >Best Regards,
: : >
: : >Julian
: : >
: :
: : Unfortunately, it isn't as well-specified in IP routing as in the
: : B-ISDN/ATM architecture.  Many IP discussions merge what that
: : architecture calls the control and management plane.
: :
: : Personally, I think merging the two is rather unfortunate.  In IP
: : networks, I consider control plane protocols those that are used for
: : signaling between hosts and ingress/egress routers.  Examples:  ARP,
: : IGMP.  Another way to think about them is that they serve a
: : user-to-network role.
: :
: : I consider pure management plane protocols to those used between
: : routers:  BGP, OSPF, EIGRP, RIP, etc.  Arguably, these have a
: : network-to-network role.
: :
: : There are protocols that don't neatly fit, such as RSVP and ICMP.  I
: : suppose they are control plane when host initiated and management
: : plane when router initiated, but that doesn't always work and is ugly
: : anyway.
: :
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