I didn't have anyone sitting next to me, but there was a seat. I believe
there are 6 rows for the R&S and each row is divided into 2. In San Jose
they test 6 people at a time. When I showed up for day one there were 6
people for day 1 and 6 returning for day 2. Out of the day 2 group I
believe 2 or 3 made it to day 2 and I don't recall seeing any of them in the
afternoon. From my group of 6 there were 3 that made it to day 2 and I was
the only one to progress to troubleshooting.
Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Rishard Chapoteau
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 8:22 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE #6460
Congrats man! Glad to see hard work paying off. Couple questions about
other people that you were at the lab with. You said you were the only
person to return. How many people started the lab, and how many people
didn't even make it to day 2? Are you sitting right next to people that are
also taking the lab? thanx.
Rishard
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> Hello all,
>
> This is a brief synopsis of my ccie lab and the tools I used to study. If
> you're not interested you may want to just hit the delete key now.
>
> I just thought that I would take a few moments to share my study
methodology
> for the CCIE lab. I've been meaning to do this since I passed the lab on
> November 15th in San Jose, but I always seem to get sidetracked with all
of
> my newfound free time. This was my first attempt at the lab and I found
it
> to be fairly straight forward. It wasn't as convoluted as I expected and
I
> had seen pretty much everything before.
>
> Day 1
>
> The first thing that I did was read through the entire lab TWICE. I
> realized that I knew how to do everything and went to work on my diagram.
I
> found day one to be very easy and was done by 2 o'clock. I checked and
> re-checked all of my work and felt very confident in everything that I had
> done. After that I spent time making sure that ALL of my information was
> recorded correctly and neatly on my diagram. I felt very confident when
I
> left, but I have to admit as I tried to get some sleep the what if's were
> creeping in my mind.
>
> Day 2
>
> I arrived for Day 2 happy to see the Day 2 binder on my desk and went
> through the same process of reading the entire lab twice. I realized that
I
> knew exactly what to do on 90% of the lab and may have to browse the cd
for
> the other 10%. Again, I found that there was plenty of time and I had
> completed everything that I knew how to do by 10:30. I spent the next 30
> minutes reviewing the cd and configuring the remaining 10%. I then
re-read
> everything and checked over all of my work and made sure that my diagram
was
> complete. Documentation is very important in the lab not only for
> troubleshooting, but to ensure that the proctor can see what you were
doing.
> The proctor spends all day at the lab and then has to check your work in
the
> evening or at lunch for day 2. The last thing he wants to do is spend 30
> minutes trying to read your diagram. Of course, this is just my opinion.
>
> After day 2, I felt real good about my work, but nervous none the less.
> This made for what seemed like a never ending lunch. Once we arrived back
> at the facility I was called first and on the way back to the lab I was
told
> that I had made it to troubleshooting and that I had three hours. When I
> returned to my desk I found the paperwork for troubleshooting and for the
> first time found out how many points I had. I had gained 70 of the 75
> points and only needed 10 of the 25 from troubleshooting. At that point,
I
> knew that I had passed and just needed to knock out the troubleshooting.
As
> I looked around I realized that no one else had progressed from Day 2. I
> spent about an hour and a half on troubleshooting and felt like I fixed
> everything so I turned in my sheet. About 5 minutes later, the proctor
> returned with a yellow sticky note with my number on it. He then asked me
> if I would erase all of my configs and then I left with a huge grin on my
> face. I just couldn't believe that all of my studying paid off.
>
> I met Chuck Larrieu a few hours later for a victory dinner. I knew that
it
> would be nice to have some company one way or the other and I was glad
that
> it turned out to be for good reasons.
>
> Passing the test was very rewarding, but the journey was just as
rewarding.
> It's amazing the amount of material that you learn along the way and the
> many friends that you make. I have become friends with many people that I
> may of never met if I wasn't studying for the CCIE.
>
> Study Materials
>
> I studied the normal books Caslow, Halabi, and Doyle and found them all to
> be very helpful. I also used three other books extensively that I don't
see
> mentioned very often. I used the configuring cisco routers for bridging,
> dlsw+, & desktop protocols and the Cisco Press Lan Switching Book. I
found
> them both to be very helpful as I work extensively with cisco routers and
> rarely use cisco switches. I also used the CCIEBootcamp labs which I
found
> to be an excellent resource for practice. There are a lot of other labs,
> but most of them don't throw everything together like the bootcamp labs.
I
> have to admit that I only completed about half of them and never did the
> dreaded lab 8, but I studied all 17 of them and read up on anything that I
> didn't know how to do. It often takes a large amount of time to do a full
> lab, but reading through it and "spotting the issues" can be very helpful.
> About 2 months ago I attended the ECP1 course which was taught by Bruce
> Caslow. I found Bruce's methodology to be excellent and really got a lot
> out of the course. About a month after that I attended Cisco's ASET
> (www.cisco.com/go/aset) program. This turned out to be an excellent
program
> as well and I just wished that I would of known about it sooner. This is
a
> 3-day lab taught by Jay and Jose in San Jose. The lab is a simulated CCIE
> environment where each student gets a pod with 8 routers, a cat 3920, cat
> 5000, and a ls 1010. Jay and Jose really helped me on good diagramming
> skills and allowed me to sit down for a timed lab. I did very well on the
> lab and this really boosted my confidence for the actual lab. Another
> benefit to the ASET program is that after completing the 3-day mock lab
you
> are able to get access to the rack via internet access. I was able to
> reserve 5 days of rack time just prior to taking my lab.
>
> One of the keys is practice, practice, and more practice. It is very
> important that you understand how the protocols behave. If you're just
used
> to configuring them based on a manual or cookie-cutter config you will
have
> difficulty due to the way the lab has you configure things. If you
> understand the behavior of the protocols then the lab will seem very easy
> because you will immediately see what they are looking for. It is also
> crucial that you have the core topics down pat. There are things on the
lab
> that you haven't seen before, but they won't comprise near the points that
> the core topics cover.
>
> Finally, I would like to thank all of the helpful members of groupstudy.
I
> have been on the list for quite awhile and the group has brought about
many
> thought provoking questions and helped me to see things in a different
light
> than just based on what I read or how I interpreted it. I am very
thankful
> to Paul for taking the time and money to run this list. I had the
> opportunity to meet Paul and have dinner with him this year at Networkers
> and you can tell that he enjoys running this group and works very hard and
> adding to the group.
>
> I've probably bored you all to death by now so I'll end it here.
>
> Regards,
> Aaron K. Dixon
>
>
>
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