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lawrence sculark
Sent:   Friday, December 22, 2000 8:44 AM
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Subject:        thanks chuck!!!

you have to be involved with cabling to understand the concept of punch down
blocks....it's the location where the cable wires connect...some times they
are small plastic blocks with different colors....when you scrip a cat5
cable open you see different color wires...they correspond to the blocks for
connections.....you also have a tool called a punch down tool used to insert
the wires into the  block...you are punching the wires
down...'punch-down'.....

you, bradley, are more than right about terminology...there are too many in
this great universe and 'we' must clarify them..and help others to
understand what we mean....for example ASP has many new meanings...
and please do not be afraid to ask any question...chuck larrieu has help me
to configure ipx on a cisco router...he looked at my configuration and found
the answer even when cisco tac had no idea....does that mean that they are
not qualified...no...it means that we have some very qualified people on
this  list who are more than willling to help!!!!! we cannot and must not
close our eyes to sharing knowledge for the development of all man-kind and
future network engineers....

thank all of you and keep up the good work.....
lawrence a sculark
mba/ma, ccna,cnx-a,mcp,cna
[phd in progress]


>From: "Bradley J. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Bradley J. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: what is a CSU/DSU?
>Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 08:14:15 -0500
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>Folks, is it really necessary to pounce on someone for asking an occasional
>"simple" question?  Okay, so CSU/DSUs are basic networking gear.  But guess
>what: *none* of the CCNA material I studied ever went into any great detail
>on what exactly this thing was or did, and coming from the technical
>training side of the house never dealt with one until very recently.  Other
>examples: I have no idea what a "punch-down block" or a "patch panel" is.
>Maybe I've dealt with them before and would know if someone said "*That* is
>a patch panel," but the fact is that most of the CC** materials only focus
>on the routers and switches, and not so much on the peripheral yet
>essential
>devices.
>
>So, in other words, back off when someone asks a question you think is
>"beneath" you or this group.  Just don't answer if you don't want to.  But
>there are lots of valid, basic questions out there that yes, even CCNP/IE
>candidates would like answers to.  It would be a shame if they felt they
>weren't "allowed" to ask those questions here.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Bradley J. Wilson
>Who, despite being a CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT and CTT, does not
>know what a punch-down block is.  Sue me.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: netlinesys
>Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 7:55 AM
>Subject: re: what is a CSU/DSU?
>
>
>Zhiping,
>
>If u know the basic of networking , u can answer this question !!??
>I found it difficult for CCNP candidate to ask this question.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Zhiping Li" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
>Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 12:37 PM
>Subject: what is a CSU/DSU?
>
>
> > Hi,ciscoer:
> >
> > when I study cisco ccnp,
> > I always find CSU/DSU,
> > what are them?
> > what are their use?
> > Are they some kind of MODEM?
> > thanks .
> >
>
>
>
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