> 
> You know, this is something I personally have never even though about...at 
> least from the aspect of your e-mail address.  But it makes absolute 
sense.  
> Because being new myself, I have already leaned there are some people you 
> just don\'t open and then there are some that you learn things from.  
> 
> And since Howard is someone who falls into that latter catagory, I am 
> changing which mail service I use for group-study as he is actually someone 
> that I read on a consistant basis.  
> 
> And one thing he is very definately right on about, is the fact that 
newbies 
> like myself are in awe of some of you guys.  I took everyone\'s word in a 
> literal sense when I first started reading this group and then I realized I 
> needed to weed out the strays in order NOT to be misdirected.  I also 
> considered dropping this group, but decided to stay because of posts like 
> Howard\'s.  He is someone people listen to, or should I say someone I 
listen 
> to.  Chuck and Pricilla also fall in that same list.  There are a few 
others, 
> but just naming these few are why I will continue to remain here and only 
> occasionally posting a note.  The bottom line is, they actually teach.  I 
> reason things by saying the other\'s will get tired and eventually leave or 
> grow up.  I would rather read Howard\'s \"crotchety\" replies anyday to 
some 
> other\'s.
> 
> Just my opinion...
> Jennifer Cribbs
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (this is really me and yes, I pay money for this)
> 
> 
> >I\\\'m really bothered by posts from anonymous or unverifiable email
> >addresses that slam companies, countries, authors, immigration
> >policies, and rumors about planned Cisco attacks.  When I make a
> >public post, there\\\'s no question who is making it.
> >
> >Is this Berkowitz just being crotchety, or does this mean anything to
> >anyone\\\'s career?  I think the latter.  In the IETF, for example,
> >there are people who have a lifelong reputation of trying to Do The
> >Right Thing. Paul Vixie and Vint Cerf, for example, are people whose
> >reputations are such that they can make comments about a competitor
> >and have their statement accepted as true to the best of their
> >knowledge.
> >
> >Perhaps not at entry level, where the lower-level certifications are
> >most important, but as one moves to higher levels, reputation is
> >important. I am NOT saying not to make claims about things that
> >irritate you. I am saying to do it, when you do, in a manner that
> >helps your reputation and that of the industry as a whole.
> >
> >Personally, I am close to killfiling groupstudy (and other technical)
> >list posts that originate from throwaway email services such as
> >hotmail.  Here\\\'s my reasoning.
> >
> >If you don\\\'t use a free access service (e.g., free dialup/DSL for
> >advertising), you have to be paying for an ISP, or gaining access via
> >an employer, academic, or library account.
> >
> >An ISP account normally includes POP3 access. The cost of additional
> >mailboxes normally is trivial, if perhaps you want different
> >mailboxes for personal and business matters.  Even if you need to get
> >to your personal account from work, many intranets allow external
> >POP3 connectivity.
> >
> >If someone really needs the web-based mail interfaces of a
> >hotmail-type service rather than using POP3 with any of a number of
> >email clients (including browsers), I\\\'d really be uncomfortable with
> >them configuring my routers.
> >
> >Believe me, someone who posts from an anonymous account, uses \\\"email
> >slang\\\" such as \\\"u\\\" rather than \\\"you,\\\" etc., is not 
improving their
> >image in the industry. And image can\\\'t be ignored completely.
> >
> >
> >--
> >\\\"What Problem are you trying to solve?\\\"
> >***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not
> >directly to me***
> >
> >Howard C. Berkowitz      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Technical Director, CertificationZone.com
> >Senior Mgr., IP Protocols & Algorithms, NortelNetworks (for ID only)
> >   but Cisco stockholder!
> >\\\"retired\\\" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005
> -- 
> 
> 
> 
> 



-- 
Have a good day!!!
Jennifer Cribbs



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