> > You know, this is something I personally have never even though about...at > least from the aspect of your e-mail address. But it makes absolute sense. > Because being new myself, I have already leaned there are some people you > just don\'t open and then there are some that you learn things from. > > And since Howard is someone who falls into that latter catagory, I am > changing which mail service I use for group-study as he is actually someone > that I read on a consistant basis. > > And one thing he is very definately right on about, is the fact that newbies > like myself are in awe of some of you guys. I took everyone\'s word in a > literal sense when I first started reading this group and then I realized I > needed to weed out the strays in order NOT to be misdirected. I also > considered dropping this group, but decided to stay because of posts like > Howard\'s. He is someone people listen to, or should I say someone I listen > to. Chuck and Pricilla also fall in that same list. There are a few others, > but just naming these few are why I will continue to remain here and only > occasionally posting a note. The bottom line is, they actually teach. I > reason things by saying the other\'s will get tired and eventually leave or > grow up. I would rather read Howard\'s \"crotchety\" replies anyday to some > other\'s. > > Just my opinion... > Jennifer Cribbs > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (this is really me and yes, I pay money for this) > > > >I\\\'m really bothered by posts from anonymous or unverifiable email > >addresses that slam companies, countries, authors, immigration > >policies, and rumors about planned Cisco attacks. When I make a > >public post, there\\\'s no question who is making it. > > > >Is this Berkowitz just being crotchety, or does this mean anything to > >anyone\\\'s career? I think the latter. In the IETF, for example, > >there are people who have a lifelong reputation of trying to Do The > >Right Thing. Paul Vixie and Vint Cerf, for example, are people whose > >reputations are such that they can make comments about a competitor > >and have their statement accepted as true to the best of their > >knowledge. > > > >Perhaps not at entry level, where the lower-level certifications are > >most important, but as one moves to higher levels, reputation is > >important. I am NOT saying not to make claims about things that > >irritate you. I am saying to do it, when you do, in a manner that > >helps your reputation and that of the industry as a whole. > > > >Personally, I am close to killfiling groupstudy (and other technical) > >list posts that originate from throwaway email services such as > >hotmail. Here\\\'s my reasoning. > > > >If you don\\\'t use a free access service (e.g., free dialup/DSL for > >advertising), you have to be paying for an ISP, or gaining access via > >an employer, academic, or library account. > > > >An ISP account normally includes POP3 access. The cost of additional > >mailboxes normally is trivial, if perhaps you want different > >mailboxes for personal and business matters. Even if you need to get > >to your personal account from work, many intranets allow external > >POP3 connectivity. > > > >If someone really needs the web-based mail interfaces of a > >hotmail-type service rather than using POP3 with any of a number of > >email clients (including browsers), I\\\'d really be uncomfortable with > >them configuring my routers. > > > >Believe me, someone who posts from an anonymous account, uses \\\"email > >slang\\\" such as \\\"u\\\" rather than \\\"you,\\\" etc., is not improving their > >image in the industry. And image can\\\'t be ignored completely. > > > > > >-- > >\\\"What Problem are you trying to solve?\\\" > >***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not > >directly to me*** > > > >Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Technical Director, CertificationZone.com > >Senior Mgr., IP Protocols & Algorithms, NortelNetworks (for ID only) > > but Cisco stockholder! > >\\\"retired\\\" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 > -- > > > > -- Have a good day!!! Jennifer Cribbs _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

