I'm glad someone's in the same boat as me. There are probably lots of other's, but they just don't say anything. Being quiet has never been one of my strong points. Jennifer Cribbs "Denis A. Baldwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Good post! I'm sorta kinda newbie to Cisco myself. I've been doing > Network Administration for several years, but never really dealt with Cisco. > I'm glad we're in the same boat! > > Denis > > Denis A. Baldwin A+/MCP/I-Net+ > Network Administrator - CAE, Inc. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Jennifer Cribbs > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 9:09 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: > > > > You know, this is something I personally have never even though about...at > least from the aspect of your e-mail address. But it makes absolute sense. > Because being new myself, I have already leaned there are some people you > just don't open and then there are some that you learn things from. > > And since Howard is someone who falls into that latter catagory, I am > changing which mail service I use for group-study as he is actually someone > that I read on a consistant basis. > > And one thing he is very definately right on about, is the fact that newbies > like myself are in awe of some of you guys. I took everyone's word in a > literal sense when I first started reading this group and then I realized I > needed to weed out the strays in order NOT to be misdirected. I also > considered dropping this group, but decided to stay because of posts like > Howard's. He is someone people listen to, or should I say someone I listen > to. Chuck and Pricilla also fall in that same list. There are a few > others, > but just naming these few are why I will continue to remain here and only > occasionally posting a note. The bottom line is, they actually teach. I > reason things by saying the other's will get tired and eventually leave or > grow up. I would rather read Howard's "crotchety" replies anyday to some > other's. > > Just my opinion... > Jennifer Cribbs > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (this is really me and yes, I pay money for this) > > > >I\'m really bothered by posts from anonymous or unverifiable email > >addresses that slam companies, countries, authors, immigration > >policies, and rumors about planned Cisco attacks. When I make a > >public post, there\'s no question who is making it. > > > >Is this Berkowitz just being crotchety, or does this mean anything to > >anyone\'s career? I think the latter. In the IETF, for example, > >there are people who have a lifelong reputation of trying to Do The > >Right Thing. Paul Vixie and Vint Cerf, for example, are people whose > >reputations are such that they can make comments about a competitor > >and have their statement accepted as true to the best of their > >knowledge. > > > >Perhaps not at entry level, where the lower-level certifications are > >most important, but as one moves to higher levels, reputation is > >important. I am NOT saying not to make claims about things that > >irritate you. I am saying to do it, when you do, in a manner that > >helps your reputation and that of the industry as a whole. > > > >Personally, I am close to killfiling groupstudy (and other technical) > >list posts that originate from throwaway email services such as > >hotmail. Here\'s my reasoning. > > > >If you don\'t use a free access service (e.g., free dialup/DSL for > >advertising), you have to be paying for an ISP, or gaining access via > >an employer, academic, or library account. > > > >An ISP account normally includes POP3 access. The cost of additional > >mailboxes normally is trivial, if perhaps you want different > >mailboxes for personal and business matters. Even if you need to get > >to your personal account from work, many intranets allow external > >POP3 connectivity. > > > >If someone really needs the web-based mail interfaces of a > >hotmail-type service rather than using POP3 with any of a number of > >email clients (including browsers), I\'d really be uncomfortable with > >them configuring my routers. > > > >Believe me, someone who posts from an anonymous account, uses \"email > >slang\" such as \"u\" rather than \"you,\" etc., is not improving their > >image in the industry. And image can\'t be ignored completely. > > > > > >-- > >\"What Problem are you trying to solve?\" > >***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not > >directly to me*** > > > >Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Technical Director, CertificationZone.com > >Senior Mgr., IP Protocols & Algorithms, NortelNetworks (for ID only) > > but Cisco stockholder! > >\"retired\" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 > -- > > > > > _________________________________ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Have a good day!!! Jennifer Cribbs _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
