Remember too that entry level positions advertised do not mean that is the
only opportunity.
My recommendation is to follow through even on some of the more junior
positions and see if there is room for the company to expand the role and
hopefully remuneration.
I've been in a position to hire staff as Entry Level but on seeing the
caliber of people have gone back and redone a position for a middle level
engineer but it really depends more to me on the person and how they come
across in the interviews.
A Degree or even a Certification (apart from CCIE) just gets your foot in
the door and maybe short-listed.
A CCIE gets you dragged through the door ;)
Darren
On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, ROB wrote:
> What price do you put on folks with a combination of things? Such as a few years
>(lets
> say 3-4) with a CCNA vs the same experience with a degree? or a degree and
> certification?
>
> Eric Gunn wrote:
>
> > It is unfortunate that there are people that skim by these exams just for
> > the sake of certification. But it is also important to remember people that
> > are trying to get into the field. I am not saying just because you have
> > certification X means you should make X amount of dollars, or expect job X.
> > I have heard many horror stories of companies hiring MCSE certified people
> > whom could not even format a disk. But for many people, such as myself it
> > was a place to start. Lets be realistic here, nobody was born with the
> > knowledge and everyone had to learn it at some point.
> >
> > The damage to certifications was quite evident when I completed my MCSE 1
> > 1/2 years ago, at the time I was doing Desktop support with some server
> > work in a large network. I was not even expecting to get a high paying job,
> > just looking for a place to increase my skills and it was next to
> > impossible. Once I took MCSE off my resume I had better luck finding a job,
> > just with the 1 year experi.
> >
> > It is disappointing to someone like myself whom is in the middle. I have
> > been working with Cisco equipment now for 2 years, 1 year in depth. So I do
> > have some experience with it. Most available jobs I have seen thus far are
> > entry level(I would be bored stiff) or Senior Level(I am not ready for
> > yet). I just recently completed my CCNP + Security certifications. I do not
> > by any means feel that I am a Cisco god, but I am much better off for going
> > through the program. I have learned a great deal in the last year while
> > completing the CCNP. I think lost in all of the arguments over
> > certification is the most important thing of all. That if you do it right,
> > you actually learn a great deal and I am sure that was what was the initial
> > intent of all certifications.
> >
> > Sorry for the Rant,
> >
> > -Eric Gunn
> >
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