When I stop getting recruiters calling and asking me to recite the OSI, 
despite having experience, MSoft, CCNA and most of CCNP right on my resume, 
I'll change my attitude towards them.  So for now, the few of us who have 
tired of their schenanigans ask the few of you who are good to understand.


>From: Brian Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Brian Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Certifications on resumes
>Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 12:26:36 -0500
>
>Can we ease a little on the HR recruiter bashing guys?  There are a few of
>us out here that do know a thing or 2 about Cisco certifications, believe 
>it
>or not.
>
>Brian Mitchell
>ICS Corp
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chris Haller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 3:47 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Certifications on resumes
>
>
>Yes, but what you fail to realize is that Recruiters
>do not care about you nor do they even read your
>resume most times.  All they care about is stuffing
>you into a job they think you are "Perfect" for simply
>based on the fact that one word of your resume matches
>whats on their client request.
>
>Most recruiters have no experience in the field they
>recruit for, and do not know how to sell you to an HR
>department because they do not understand what
>CCNP/CCIE mean.
>
>Believe me, in IT, what HR thinks about a resume or a
>qualified canidata dosent mean squat !!!   WHen it
>gets into the hands of the IT Manager, he/she will
>know who you are !!!!
>--- Rob <"mrlanman\""@visto.com> wrote:
> > That sounds like a very good compromise.  I think it
> > is a good way to go.
> >
> > Craig Columbus wrote:
> >
> > > I've actually seen more than one post that said
> > CCIE required, CCNA
> > > preferred.  Go figure.
> > > In my experience, CCNP doesn't get a lot of play
> > in HR departments.  HR
> > > recognizes CCNA, but doesn't understand CCNP.
> > > I've also seen a fair number of recruiters/HR
> > confuse CCNA with CNA.
> > > Bottom line?  I don't put any letters after my
> > name, but I have a
> > > certifications section on my resume where I list
> > each certification, spell
> > > it out, and put the date achieved...even an HR
> > person should be able to see
> > > that the CCNA = Cisco Certified Network Associate,
> > and that it was earned
> > > prior to my CCNP.
> > >
> > > Craig
> > >
> > > At 10:08 AM 1/26/2001 +0000, you wrote:
> > >
> > >> Robert,
> > >> You will find that some jobs advertised in a way
> > that they are looking for
> > >> people who are CCNA or CCIE ( so where is CCNP )
> > . It seems that some
> > >> recruitment agency do not know the difference
> > between CCIE and CCNA. I will
> > >> put it the CCNA somewhere in your resume just to
> > avoid that .
> > >>
> > >> Robert Padjen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> > message
> > >>
> >
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >>
> > >>> I was asked an interesting question this morning
> > by a
> > >>> friend who just passed their CCNP. Basically
> > they
> > >>> wanted to know if they should now remove the
> > CCNA from
> > >>> their resume or list both CCNA and CCNP.
> > >>>
> > >>> I took the position that (as I do) the CCNP
> > implies
> > >>> the CCNA, and therefore one would only list
> > their
> > >>> 'highest' within a track. A number of co-workers
> > said
> > >>> no, list it all.
> > >>>
> > >>> Please chime in with your position - unicast if
> > your
> > >>> just sending a vote and multicast if you are
> > raising a
> > >>> discussion. Sorry to those who feel this is an
> > >>> improper use of the board.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks.
> > >>>
> > >>> =====
> > >>> Robert Padjen
> > >>>
> > >>>
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