Mark Z, 

You're in a situation that a lot of router techs run into. What's Up Gold
sucks and HPOV is to expensive. There really isn't any middle ground that
I'm aware of. I've seen some "homegrown" solutions that people have
developed, but no one has really come to the table to compete with HP in the
middle sized network arena. I wish they would. Many companies in your
situation are going with outsourced Network Management. I don't suggest this
unless you really trust the company that you're trusting your network to,
and you have a water-tight contract with them. 

I use multiple intallations of HPOV, some with NavisCore (CascadeView), and
some with CiscoView/CiscoWorks. I also use evaluation versions of OV to
exercise SNMP agents on new devices. It has the most bang for the time it
takes to congirue it, when you're trying to document the SNMP traps that a
specific agent produces. Companies my size need something even bigger than
OV, like NetCool (Cisco InfoCenter) to manage their many management systems.
We use Evidian OpenMaster. Its not my favorite, but it has a nice interface
for managing Nortel DMS500 Class 5 switches. I recommend NetCool for a
manager of managers. Its by far the most flexible MoM out there. 

Let me know if I can provide any more info...

Good luck,

Timothy Estes CCNA
Senior Network Systems Analyst
Tier III Systems Support
Intermedia Communications Inc.
1 Intermedia Way
MC FLT TE-2
Tampa FL 33674
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Subject: Network Management Program (which???)


Hey Group,
     Need some help on this one. I just came on as a contractor for this
company. The network is somewhat small. They have around 186 routers
worldwide and around 22 switches that they have to worry about. So all in
all, there are around 200 managed devices for us to take care of. Currently
they are using some program called "What's Up Gold". Personally, I hate this
thing. It's not secure, the features are minimal, and I hate web based
stuff. They have it set up on one machine and everyone access's it from the
web to it's IP.
     The manager has expresed some interest in other methods but it will be
hard to move him away from what there is now after he gets back in a week
from a business trip. I would like to present a proposal on a new management
system. My problem is that I have only worked in Openview before. I think
Openview is awesome and gives you all the features you need and more. For
this site though, I think it would be too much. I just don't think it's
really needed for the size of this network and the management/configuration
of it would overseed the network management itself.
     Basically, I'm asking what you guru's out there think I should present
to use. Should it be CiscoWorks2000, Openview, or stay with What's Up Gold?
I really appreciate the help and thanks for putting up with the long post.
Thanks all,

Mark Z...

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