A couple of weeks ago I was looking for an alternative to 'show dialer' to display the value of the idle timer in IOS 12.1 on an AS5300. I found an answer. For those who are interested, 'show int' now shows the information (at least on an AS5300). It is also much easier to determine which interface is bound to what. JMcL router1#sh int Dialer7 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is Unknown Interface is unnumbered. Using address of Loopback0 (x.x.x.x) MTU 1500 bytes, BW 512 Kbit, DLY 20000 usec, reliability 255/255, txload 198/255, rxload 142/255 Encapsulation PPP, loopback not set Time to interface disconnect: idle 00:01:59 <-- Idle timer :-) Interface is bound to Se0:23 Interface is bound to Se0:24 Interface is bound to Se0:25 Interface is bound to Se0:26 Interface is bound to Se0:27 Interface is bound to Se0:28 Interface is bound to Se0:29 Interface is bound to Se0:30 LCP Open, multilink Open Open: IPCP, CDPCP, IPXCP Last input 00:00:00, output never, output hang never Last clearing of "show interface" counters 1w2d [stats snipped] Bound to: Serial0:23 is up, line protocol is up [all the usual guff snipped] Timeslot(s) Used:24, Transmitter delay is 0 flags _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]