Sorry, I must rant.........
The Dr./lawyer analogy does not fly. If you could pay 100 bucks and be an
M.D. or $200.00 to pass the bar without any real merit your damn right
Doctors and Lawyers would be
up in arms about it., they would be discussing and fighting all the way. Not
to mention the patients and clients. I do agree however even in a situation
such as this that if your good your good and people will see that and you
will be paid and treated appropriatly.
I also love it when one or 2 people decide what should or shouldn't be on a
list
they simply belong to with thousands of others who may be interested in
discussing a topic related to Cisco Certification. A very valid concern in
my mind.
Instead of simply moving on you contribute to this supposed waste of
bandwidth and time, and then on top of that to try and dictate what does or
doesn't belong on the list.
If this topic was not for you why not just pass it by or delete instead of
participating in it only to tell all the others who have an interest that it
does or does not belong
on a list that is not yours.
You can tell by the subject what it is about..... move on.
This is not specific to this thread, I have seen it many times. Sometimes
things clearly are not on topic but it is still discussed without comment.
This is very close to topic and although I agree that if your good your good
and you don't have to worry many people would like to discuss it. Especially
if Cisco really does open the flood gates.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rene Mendoza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Thursday, February 15, 2001 1:04 PM
>Subject: Re: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
>
>
>>Kenneth has read my mind exactly. This whole thread or future similar
>types of
>>threads do not belong here. We are wasting bandwidth and time replying to
>these
>>postings. Let's just keep concentrating on our studies please!
>>
>>
>>Kenneth Sacca wrote:
>>
>>> Jeez this topic is boring and so out of touch with
>>> reality. I bet most of the complainers here are
>>> former MCSE, CNE, ASE, A+ and all of those other
>>> certification holders.
>>>
>>> Your career isn't based on a certification. You
>>> will never have a little fraternity of 5000 CCIEs
>>> worldwide, where no one else can join the club.
>>> Do you think lawyers or doctors write about this
>>> crap all the time when a new class of people pass
>>> the bar and medical board exams? Do CPAs complain
>>> that the passing rate was 60% for their exam? Do
>>> CEOs complain about each class that graduates from
>>> Harvard Business school?
>>>
>>> What you do on the job matters. If you are good,
>>> then the money will come. If you suck, no matter
>>> what your cert, you will be paid what you are worth.
>>> Excel individually as a person, and stop worrying
>>> about this crap.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>> > X-Originating-IP: [213.120.56.45]
>>> > From: "Mark Lewis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > Subject: RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
>>> > Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:07:40
>>> > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Feb 2001 17:07:40.0605 (UTC)
>>> FILETIME=[CDCA26D0:01C09771]
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > IF this is true, I'll be really p****d off with Cisco - all that hard
>work,
>>> > and now the cert is going down the toilet.
>>> >
>>> > Mark
>>> > CCIE#6280
>>> >
>>> > >From: "Yurchenko, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > >Reply-To: "Yurchenko, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > >To: "'Jason T. Rohm'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "CCIELIST
(E-mail)"
>>> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > >Subject: RE: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
>>> > >Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:27:33 -0500
>>> > >
>>> > >Well, recently I have seen a post that all 5 individuals who
attempted
>the
>>> > >test passed it successfully, and it looks like the rate at which the
>new
>>> > >CCIEs are being produced - close to 200 a month - would lead me to
>believe
>>> > >that we could possibly hit 10000 by the end of the year.
>>> > >
>>> > >Michael Yurchenko
>>> > >CCIE# 6695, CCDP, CCNP ATM Specialist, MCSE
>>> > >Customer Support Engineer - 2
>>> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > >610-407-2154
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >-----Original Message-----
>>> > >From: Jason T. Rohm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>> > >Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 11:16 AM
>>> > >To: CCIELIST (E-mail)
>>> > >Subject: Number of new CCIE's (off topic)
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >I just got my CCIE a few days ago and was disapointed at how easy the
>test
>>> > >was (by comparision to my other attempts).
>>> > >
>>> > >The raw number of new CCIE in the last few weeks seems to confirm
that
>the
>>> > >new tests are infact easier than the old ones.
>>> > >
>>> > >While I am quite happy to have passed, I am also quite concerned that
>the
>>> > >number of CCIEs is going to double this year with the newly watered
>down
>>> > >tests and bigger labs.
>>> > >
>>> > >Does anyone else have a comment on this?
>>> > >
>>> > >Thank you,
>>> > >
>>> > > Jason T. Rohm
>>> > > Sr. Network Engineer
>>> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > > (920) 983-0310
>>> > > CCIE #6861
>>> > >
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