42 & E
Words are the means by which we communicate our ideas.  If you call it a widget as 
long as I know that a widget is X then that's fine.  The definition of logic as the 
people who formally study the process would break it down to non-contradictory 
reasoning.  Study of logic comes from Aristotle and it is the means by which we come 
to reasonable conclusions like...  I know the device that is down must be beyond rtr2 
because my workstation is getting an icmp response from rtr2.  The devices in between 
me and rtr2 must be up because I am able to get to rtr2.  (some assumptions here but 
you get this idea...think Venn diagrams.)  The addition of these words may help...

A. All of the statements below are true
B. None of the statements below are true
C. All of the above statements are true
D. One of the above statements is true
E. None of the above statements are true
F. None of the above statements are true

With that said, E is the correct answer because 

1.  A- cannot be true because you get a contradiction with your statement in B-.  When 
you say "All of the below s.a.t." you are saying that BCDEF are true.  But in B- "None 
of the below s.a.t." you are saying that CDEF are not true.  
So from here you get....A- cannot be true (but note B can still be true.)
2.  C- cannot be true because we have already stated that A is not true.
3.  B- then becomes incorrect because we have already stated that C is not true and 
thus "None of the below s.a.t" cannot be true.
4.  D- then cannot be true because we stated that A B & C are not true and thus "One 
of the above s.a.t." cannot be true.
5.  E- The statement E is correct that "None of the above statements are true."
6.  F- You cannot say that "None of the statements above..."  F are true because we 
just said that E was true.  

Kinda critical stuff when you are problem solving and it is going to cost you $$$ 
and/or time with each proposed solution.  By what system of thinking do you use to 
evaluate the proposed solutions?  or... just answer 42.


>>> "The.Rock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/12/01 06:35PM >>>
I mean really...define wrong...What is wrong??.. and in who's eyes is F
wrong? Is it because so so called group said it was wrong??.. There is
nothing wrong with contradiction...Look at Christopher
Columbus...Contradictions inspire actions that of not so normal. It is that
kind of thinking that led Albert Einstein to be the genius that he was....

"Priscilla Oppenheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> At 03:19 PM 3/12/01, The.Rock wrote:
> >With that kind of so called deductive reasoning, F would also be a
correct
> >answer. Here's the reason. E is negating all the above answers ( that is
to
> >say that A,B,C and D are wrong). Then F says that even E is wrong.
>
> So F can't be right.
>
> F is wrong because it says that E is wrong, which isn't true. E is right!
> &;-) E is the only answer that doesn't result in a contradiction.
>
>
> >So F
> >covers all basis more so than E.
>
> Maybe it covers all bases, but it's wrong.
>
> Why did they bother adding F, someone asked? Just to be cruel, I think.
&;-)
>
> Priscilla
>
> >  The simple logic is that there is no
> >"answer" given to the question in the first place, so how could one argue
> >that one answer is better with such trivial choices. It's like the
chicken
> >and the egg factor, which one came first....Prove it.... And what is
> >logic??..And if you do know, based on who's definition?...Presumable one
> >that you were taught, which is opinion and biased anyway..So where does
that
> >leave you, back to square 1.
> >
> >"Priscilla Oppenheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > It can't be F because E is true. E is the right answer. All the other
> > > answers produce at least one contradiction. Simple logic, Sherlock.
&;-)
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> > > At 11:02 PM 3/11/01, Arthur Simplina wrote:
> > > >My answer is F. None of the above. Reason: pure guess. It is better
to
> > > >guess than no answer. :D
> > > >
> > > >Arthur
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>From: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > >>Subject: O/T One question CID test
> > > >>Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:28:35 -0800
> > > >>
> > > >>I saw something like this in Parade magazine in the Ask Marilyn
article
> > > >>today. I thought it was funny (and thought-provoking).
> > > >>
> > > >>In a campus network design, you should recommend ATM LANE if your
> > > >>customer has
> > > >>
> > > >>A. All of the below
> > > >>B. None of the below
> > > >>C. All of the above
> > > >>D. One of the above
> > > >>E. None of the above
> > > >>F. None of the above
> > > >>
> > > >>Doesn't this sound like a CID test question? &;-) There is a right
> >answer!
> > > >>Can you deduce what it is?
> > > >>
> > > >>Priscilla
> > > >>
>
>
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