Guys, I guess I need to exercise a bit more patience next time. The problem WAS the clockrate. The thing is that I did change the clock rate to 1000000 on the DCE side before posting to the group but for some reason it kept failing. However, this morning I tried it with a clockrate of 64000 and it stayed up. Any comments as to why this may be so? I guess it must be exhaustion. Anyway, I appreciate all the attempts to help me out with this one guys .....you are great .......Peace! Ray _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _________________________________ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

