oh yeah one more thing...In case you forgot, certs don't prove anything
 you really are an idiot if you think they "prove " something). The only
prove your ability to regurgitate info that you supposedly learned. Having
the know how, and knowing how to use are two different things. Lets say your
8 years old and I give you a bunch of craftsman tools, does that mean you
know how to work on a car if someone said fix it? probably not. And there's
my point. You have the tools, but do you really know how to use them, most
newbys don't, although they have a clue ( or at least some do) they are
unsure. If you truly are experienced in every sense of the word, yes I
believe that alone, can prove your qualification. I'll take a guy with
"experience" anyday over someone who is certified and little experience.
Your the victim??? Of what ?? I didn't do it, nobody did anything to you,
you make your own desicions, live with them. You must be a newbie cause you
certainly can't handle responsibility if your a "victim".

""Wilfredo M. Ruelos"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> You sounded like some newbies has stole your job. Do you have something
against up and coming people who just want to learn about Cisco and
consequently be certified for it.  I do not belong to this group of guys for
i have been on this business for 12 years but i'm not insecure if too  many
of them are coming up.  Did'nt you said that experience alone can prove your
qualification.  Then why you cannot prove it on some exam which you pointed
out as unimportant and to easy for you.
> The guy did not called me an idiot, you do! so if you really want to talk
about it i have included my address and telephone number so we can discuss
it without cluterring this list.
> And oh yeah. I've been a victim of guys like you twelve years ago.  I
cannot make myself part of it now.
> Wilfredo M. Ruelos
> Network Engineer
> Riyad Bank -Riyadh Data Center
> Tel +966-1-472-2750 ext 299
>
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