Can you give examples of OSs that don't support all ones?

-----Original Message-----
From: Joshua Beining [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 2:44 PM
To: 'David A. Lauer'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: difficult ccna question


Technically yes.  But like most things you cannot get something for free.
There is a price for subnetting which is that you loose the first subnet
(network - all zeros) and the last subnet (broadcast - all ones).  Note that
with some routers you can configure them to use these subnets.  But be
careful, because some OS's and devices do not react well to using then.
HTH.

-Joshua

-----Original Message-----
From: David A. Lauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:14 AM
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Subject: RE: difficult ccna question



Wouldn't the first subnet be 172.16.0.0?

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Joshua Beining
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:43 AM
To: 'Lowell Sharrah'
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Subject: RE: difficult ccna question


Based on the subnet mask (255.255.192.0) subtract 256 from 192 which is 64.
Therefore 64 is your first subnet.  To get the second subnet, add 64 to the
first subnet.  To get the third add 64 to the second subnet and so on.
Continue in this fashion until you reach 192.  Remember that you cannot use
the ranges 172.16.0.1  -  172.16.0.62 and 172.16.255.193  -  172.16.255.254
(network and broadcast respectively) unless your router is configured to do
so.

        Subnet  Host Range
    1   172.16.0.65  -  172.16.0.126
    2   172.16.0.129  -  172.16.0.190
    3   172.16.0.193  -  172.16.0.254
    4   172.16.1.1  -  172.16.1.62
    5   172.16.1.65  -  172.16.1.126
    6   172.16.1.129  -  172.16.1.190
    7   172.16.1.193  -  172.16.1.254
    8   172.16.2.1  -  172.16.2.62
    9   172.16.2.65  -  172.16.2.126
   10   172.16.2.129  -  172.16.2.190
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 1015   172.16.253.193  -  172.16.253.254
 1016   172.16.254.1  -  172.16.254.62
 1017   172.16.254.65  -  172.16.254.126
 1018   172.16.254.129  -  172.16.254.190
 1019   172.16.254.193  -  172.16.254.254
 1020   172.16.255.1  -  172.16.255.62
 1021   172.16.255.65  -  172.16.255.126
 1022   172.16.255.129  -  172.16.255.190

-Joshua
-----Original Message-----
From: Lowell Sharrah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:14 AM
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Subject: RE: difficult ccna question


how do you know where the first subnet begins?

>>> Joshua Beining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/22/01 10:34AM >>>
Just remember the following fomulas:

(2^# of masked bits) - 2 = Total # of subnets
(2^# of unmasked bits - 2 = Total # of hosts

Based on this the correct answer is A.

-----Original Message-----
From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: difficult ccna question


if you have a class B network with a 10-bit subnet mask, how many subnet and
how many hosts do you have?

a. 1022 subnets, 62 hosts
b. 62 subnets, 8190 hosts
c. 8190 subnets, 254 hosts
d. 254 subnets , 126 hosts


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