In defence of Sean Young (could it be the real one! :) Juniper has taken a
different approach with it's written exam.  Many people will agree that
there is a certain disparity in difficulty between the CCIE entrance exam
and it's lab which is likely by design.  Juniper has endevoured to create a
written test that is relatively similar in difficulty to it's corresponding
lab.  Hence, one should find Juniper written tougher than Cisco's because
the two exams had differing design goals.

I should caveat this with the fact that I do work for Juniper although I
haven't seen our written test (too shook up from CCIE to get the nerve to go
down a similar road again :)
 
Pete


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On 4/17/2001 at 6:21 PM Henry Rollins wrote:

>C'mon Sean, do yourself some credit,  I was sitting next to you and you 
>finished in just under 15 minutes and got a 99%.  I would say the 
>Juniper exam is more like a gillion, zillion times more difficult than 
>the CCIE exam.  If anyone doubts any of this, you can check with the 
>easterbunny, he was in seat #3, or elvis, in seat #4.  I must admit 
>being a bit shocked when John Chambers ran in and put a gold star on 
>Sean's score report and offered to hire him away from his job at 
>Juniper's Marketing Department.  
>
>All in good fun.
>
>Quoting Sean Young :
>
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> I took the Juniper exam yesterday and passed the exam with a score of
>> 80% (the passing score is 80%).  In restropect, I have to say that the
>> materials are really difficult, the questions are very tricky but fair.
>> One thing I like about Juniper is that the exam is that even though the
>> questions are tricky, they are very interesting and challenging.  The
>> exam lasted 90 minutes and I actually used the whole 90 minutes. When I
>> took the CCIE written 2 months ago, I don't remember the CCIE to be 
>that
>> difficult.  I remembered finishing the CCIE exam in about 30 minutes.
>> My score on the CCIE written was 95% so I think I got the concept down
>> very well.  However, if anyone think that if you have a easy time with
>> the CCIE written, you should also have an easy with the Juniper exam,
>> then you are DEAD wrong (if I am wrong, please correct me on this one).
>> The juniper exam will make Cisco exam looks like child's play.  If you
>> don't have hand-on experience with Juniper, you will have a very
>> difficult time with Juniper exam.   Attending Juniper training will 
>help
>> you somewhat for the exam, but it will not totally prepare for the 
>exam.
>> With Juniper exam, if you don't have BGP, OSPF and MPLS down cold, and
>> I really mean it, you can just forget about taking the exam.  Between
>> CCIE and Juniper, I would have to say that Juniper is about 5 times 
>more
>> difficult than CCIE exam because I don't think any of us has that much
>> experience with traffic engineering.  After taking the exam, I really
>> have an appreciation for Juniper Engineers.  They REALLY know their
>> stuffs.  There is just no f***ing at the core.  If you are working with
>> Juniper product, you are at the major league.
>> 
>> Anyone who did take the Juniper exam or about to and would like to 
>share
>> your experience, I would like to hear from you.
>> 
>> Sean
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